[MB Premium Twin HD] Front panel icons

[adm]

Miraclebox Premium Twin running Vix Apollo 037

Is there a guide to the front panel icons for this box/Vix image?

I'm seeing the channel name of the program I'm watching, there is continuously rotating disk symbol (timeshift disabled) and another in the top LH corner of the display that I don't understand (yet).

http://www.admac.myzen.co.uk/miracle_fp/

Is it possible to get the front panel to display that there is a recording in the background?

 

[Joe_90]

The small symbol in the top LH corner is the network symbol - you have an active ethernet connection.

The continuously rotating disk symbol is a "feature" (ie bug) of the ViX image for this particular model. Apparently it's an issue with the panel display (the VFD) driver which the code in ViX is not hacked to handle. Theoretically, the rotating disk should only appear when recording (as it does in some other images which ARE hacked to handle the panel display).

You can turn off the rotating disk symbol in the Front Panel settings, but it stays off even when recording.

 

[birdman]

The continuously rotating disk symbol is a "feature" (ie bug) of the ViX image for this particular model. Apparently it's an issue with the panel display (the VFD) driver which the code in ViX is not hacked to handle. Theoretically, the rotating disk should only appear when recording (as it does in some other images which ARE hacked to handle the panel display).

You can turn off the rotating disk symbol in the Front Panel settings, but it stays off even when recording.

Well, you can turn it of in the config, and it will go off. But only until it next comes out of standby, at which point it will return even though the config is set to not show icons.
So that config option isn't of much value - it looks like another piece of black insulating tape will need to be applied (in addition to the one to limit the searchlight-beam effect of the blue LED).

 

[Joe_90]

Well, you can turn it of in the config, and it will go off. But only until it next comes out of standby, at which point it will return even though the config is set to not show icons.
So that config option isn't of much value - it looks like another piece of black insulating tape will need to be applied (in addition to the one to limit the searchlight-beam effect of the blue LED).

Exactly

 

[birdman]

The continuously rotating disk symbol is a "feature" (ie bug) of the ViX image for this particular model. Apparently it's an issue with the panel display (the VFD) driver which the code in ViX is not hacked to handle.

So how can we go about getting that corrected?
Does mentioning it here count as having reported the bug?
Who (which group?) is able to fix it?
Does anyone know, and is willing/able to tell, where the code is, so that others might try to fix it?

 

[Joe_90]

I have reported it as a bug some time ago. The main developer of the ViX code (Andy) was not interested in hacking in order to handle the particular driver code, which in his view was non-standard. Works ok in the standard Miraclebox image, but that's very basic - not a patch on ViX.

 

[birdman]

The main developer of the ViX code (Andy) was not interested in hacking in order to handle the particular driver code, which in his view was non-standard. Works ok in the standard Miraclebox image, but that's very basic - not a patch on ViX.

So perhaps if someone who has an MB Twin and wanted to fix it knew where the code was they could at least try and then present Andy with the fix?

 

[judge]

So perhaps if someone who has an MB Twin and wanted to fix it knew where the code was they could at least try and then present Andy with the fix?

It wouldn't be a fix though, would be a workaround/hack for badly coded manufacturer drivers.
Maybe try an Open-ATV image to see if they have done that.

 

[Joe_90]

Emmm - there was a 40 post thread on this where I tried to persuade Andy to enable this without success as it involved hacks to the E2 code which he wouldn't do.
OpenATV support the recording icon in their code through a hack. Link here -

https://github.com/openatv/enigma2/blob/master/lib/python/Components/VfdSymbols.py

Look from about line 60 onwards.

edit - It is a hack, judge (just saw your post now as we posted at the same time), but otherwise the recording icon is spinning all the time or none of the time in the ViX image.

 

[Leader]

The source code VfdSymbols.py is not even present in the vix image to fix. it should be in the components folder.

 

[Larry-G]

The source code VfdSymbols.py is not even present in the vix image to fix. it should be in the components folder.

Yes as Tony stated, andy did not want to fix it with a hack as it should be fixed in the drivers first.

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[Leader]

Yes but it works in the openMB software with the same drivers.

 

[Larry-G]

Thats not the point, the drivers are at fault and Andy does not want to fix this issue by hacking things in the image, he feels it should be fixed by the manufacturer, regardless of what other teams may think or do.

 

[birdman]

It wouldn't be a fix though, would be a workaround/hack for badly coded manufacturer drivers.

So how does one report the problem to the manufacturer?

 

[judge]

So how does one report the problem to the manufacturer?

Through the manufacturers website maybe.

 

[birdman]

Thats not the point, the drivers are at fault and Andy does not want to fix this issue by hacking things in the image....

Which is interesting, as it appears to me that it's only the image that knows what should be displaying at any particular time.
I suspect I'll be able to work out something for my own needs from the code that was posted.

 

[birdman]

Through the manufacturers website maybe.

I can only report to the vendor's web-site, which is this site, which is what I've done.

 

[Larry-G]

Which is interesting, as it appears to me that it's only the image that knows what should be displaying at any particular time.
I suspect I'll be able to work out something for my own needs from the code that was posted.

Andy has always had the opinion that it's better for manufacturers to fix their own drivers where necessary rather than hacking the image to go around them, after all if we continually hack around driver issues it does not give any incentive to the manufacturer to fix any thing, but to rely on the image teams to cover their mistakes.

 

[Joe_90]

There still needs to be code in the image which turns on the rotating icon when a recording is in progress, which is what I pointed to in the OpenATV code. Andy put code into the Front Panel screen in settings which allowed the icon to be turned off, so I'm not quite sure of the subtle difference between "hacking" the image and what was done in the Front Panel controls? Along with the overly bright blue led (covered with black tape) it's a distracting "feature" of the box.

 

[birdman]

There still needs to be code in the image which turns on the rotating icon when a recording is in progress

That was my point. It's the image which knows when recording is taking place, so it's code in the image that turns the icons on and off. Nothing to do with drivers.
Mind you, a quick test on my MB Twin shows that the only symbol_* file which has any effect is symbol_circle . And show_symbols also has to be non-zero. Perhaps this is "non-standard"?
[Also, the led intensity is off if < 25 and on if >= 25 - no variation]

Andy put code into the Front Panel screen in settings which allowed the icon to be turned off

But on an MB Twin it gets turned back on if you go into Standby and then come out of it...

Does anyone know whether there are any user-accessible hooks (scripts?) called when recording timers stop and start?