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Unicable Settings and Tuning Issues

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Hi,

I am having problems with tuning the receiver with my Gigablue UHD UE 4K using an Inverto unicable LNB (Details in my signature).

Following forum discussions I moved from a single cable setup to a dual cable setup. Before starting, I checked both cables on my smart TV to check they were working properly and they were. The Inverto only has 4 scr so only 4 tuners could be set up as shown here:

Vix1.webp

Each tuner has been set up as follows:

Vix2.webp

Vix3.webp

Vix4.webp

Vix5.webp

Once setup and rebooted I checked the signal for each of the four tuners. A and B were fine but nothing shown on C and D, possibly because the tuner was not being called on to show a programme?

Vix6.webp

vix7.webp

vix8.webp

vix9.webp

I then did four recordings from the main guide which still showed all the channels previously scanned, most I set as immediate from the guide with one timed. They all worked.

vix10.webp

However I then noticed that the freesat selections I had done through ABM were not working (can't remember exactly what made me realise it and I have no screenshot). So I tried to update the Freesat settings and got this result:

Vix11.webp

I noticed it was using tuner B not A (any reason why?). The result was odd because when I checked the signal it was still fine. I have read that the delay on unicable can be an issue and I see that Abu has posted instructions on what to do when the "Tune Failed" messages comes up (and it has on a couple of occasions) but before I mess with that I wanted to get feedback on the results so far.

The results of the scan only gave 260 channels not the 800+ that I had. I then noticed that it was 26 copies of the same ten channels.

vix12.webp

vix13.webp

When I then looked at the freesat listings, most channels were not there. I tried to rescan again but it once more would not let me:

vix14.webp

I do not think it is a signal problem (but it might be). I think the settings are as they should be (but could others check please?). So I am unclear why the scanning is not now working in this new 2 cable setup.

Hope someone can help.
 
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So you are using a splitter on the single unicable output from the LNB to make two connections to this Gigablue UHD UE 4K box?
 
Physical setup:
Remove the splitter. Attach/hook up the signal wire to socket/tuner A.

Software:
Change settings for tuners B-D so that they are all "Connected" to tuner A.

I will update the unicable guide soon.
 
I suggest we have a different thread for your "scanning" issues. There are different types of scanning. They do things differently and results are based on options you select.
 
Yes Willo,

This is the post I incorrectly attributed to Abu. It was Huevos. I am not sure that this is the scanning problem. By the time I come to scan the machine should have settled down?
 
Thanks Abu,

I have been playing with it unsuccessfully just before reading your post and started by swapping the two cables and that made no difference so went back to the single cable setup and wired direct to the unicable source and it has downloaded a record 870+ programmes. Why? It is a bit frustrating and actually fairly critical at the moment.

I am renovating a house and have gone down the unicable route as I did not want the multiple cables wired all through the house (basically, from the central point to each room requires 5 cables for safety using legacy cables. Unicable seems to overcome this but my confidence is much lower now. I can wire the house so that I can get the main unicable to the receiver whenever necessary but it would be a bit of a pain to do that every time I want to scan.

Is it the quality of the splitter that is the issue or something else (I did ask for guidance on this previously but it was amongst many other issues so got lost in the noise)? Happy to invest im higher quality components if that is what is required.
 
I thought the whole of this post was about scanning issues but if you feel something should be split out please tell me what, how and where to put the new thread.
 
Please confirm you have modified the wiring (removed splitter) and modified your tuner configurations.

Tuner setup and scanning are different topics. Please deal with the more important one first.
 
Not sure I understand the difference but happy to follow your lead.

Yes unicable in A. B connected to A. C to H FBC Automatic.


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What about c and D?

Can you draw a quick sketch of how it is now. Let us not confuse with what you want to end up with. We can deal with that later, once you are comfortable with the current setup.
 
Your LNB has 4 SCR. If you do not want to use all 4 SCR on this receiver, setting is correct. If you want to use all 4 SCR on this receiver, setting is wrong.

For info:
FBC automatic = Internal loop through when required and possible
It is not "configure FBC tuners automatically".
 
OK Abu,

Do you have details on what the settings should be please? Is there an example I can follow?

I have looked at the forum but the info appears conflicting but that may be because it is not always properly explained.

BTW. If you are doing a guide on this and need it edited/proofed I would be happy to contribute.


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You are missing details that are being given to you. Slow down, one thing at a time. You will get there.

Willow3092 posted screenshots/descriptions for you. You also posted in the thread with instructions which you need to follow with slight adjustments for your make/model.

It is going to be easy if you keep things simple and one at a time. I'd rather you get your tuner config correct first. It is fundamental. Rest of it will fall in place.


https://www.world-of-satellite.com/...e-II-Inverto-IDLU-32UL40-UNB00-0PP-FBC-tuners

You already posted in the guide for setting it up. His LNB had 32 SCR, yours has 4. Configure your first 4 tuners as per guide, leave the rest as FBC AUTOMATIC.

A
SCR =1
Connected = no

B
SCR =2
Connected = yes
Connected to A

C
SCR = 3
Connected = Yes
Connected to A

D
SCR = 4
Connected = Yes
Connected to A

E to H
Leave as FBC automatic. This is because all of your SCRs are in use.

Make/model will have to be entered too. Once you have done that we can do next stage.

I think it might be better for you to state what is confusing on the guide so I can make it clearer. I have been editing it as we go along with various people who are confused/annoyed by complexity.

Some of the terms are confusing because they mean different things in different contexts.
 
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Abu,

That is now set up. B using advanced and C and D using FBC SCR. Each set to individual scr.

Where is a link to the guide as it is?


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GeoffatMM said:
Where is a link to the guide as it is?
Click to expand...

Guide to configuring lnb is here, Note post 2.
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/...e-II-Inverto-IDLU-32UL40-UNB00-0PP-FBC-tuners

Hopefully, that is your configuration correct. Correct = match hardware hooked up to tuner/s

My advice has been continuation of theme of other advice given to avoid confusion. Your LNB has a unicable output and two legacy inputs. I am assuming that you are not using the legacy/universal outputs and no other receivers are accessing the LNB. I had asked for a sketch so I do not assume.

Please start your scanning thread for scanning issues if there is a problem. I would suggest you stick with manual scan and not use plugins like ABM while you are in trialling mode. All 4 "tuners" should yield same results.

Manual scan, single satellite, 28.2, choose tuner, no to network.
 
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OK Abu, many thanks.

I will review the guide in the context of my recent experience.

I will carry out the manual scans and report back.

So, selected tuner one at a time.
Predefined transponder.
Sat 28.2.
Transponder leave as is.
Network No.
Clear No
Only Free. No(?). Is this to limit it to FTA channels or something else?

As clear is set to No these scans will not affect existing listings, is that right? Will it create duplicates or is Vix intelligent enough to sort that out?

I will wait for your response before starting.

If this yields any problems I will start a new thread as suggested.


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Change "predefined transponder" to "single satellite" otherwise you will just scan a single transponder. Dont worry about duplicates.
 
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