MultiLNB setup with official IrdetoICE subscription card - is CCCam needed?

[stakkabo]

Hi - apologies for a lengthy message but I am a layman in Enigma world and am looking for quite a specific advice with my VU+ Duo setup. I currently have single 85cm dish with two LNBs - one for Astra 3A/3B (23.5 E) and one for Astra 1H (19.2 E) - fixed LNB system, no motor. My Duo is currently set-up with Tuner A as a single Astra 3A/3B and Tuner B as a disecq Astra 3A/3B and Astra 1H. I have an official CSlink/Skylink subscription card (Irdeto/CryptoWorks ICE) at the moment installed in Duo via CAM Module (from Mascom) in a CI slot. The problem with this setup is that I can't really benefit from twin-tuner on any subscription channels - whenever I am recording from one Skylink channel all the other Skylink channels are blocked ("No free tuner" message pops-up). I only can watch free (non-subscription) channels on Astra 3A/3B or Astra 1H when my Skylink card is being "used" for recording by one tuner. I have tried to use my other CAM modul+Skylink card ((which i have in another room in my Kuro sat receiver) in the second CI slot in Duo and then it allows me to receive/record 2 (but only 2) different channels at the same time. I am obviously trying to see whether i can enjoy the full twin-tuner optionality of the duo with the current single card set-up (without the need to have both my CAM modules/cards in Duo). My Skylink seller tells me that this problem can be resolved by CCCam set-up such that I don't need to use CAM Module at all and IrdetoICE card would be in the top Smartcard reader slot of the Duo instead. Apparently he has tested it with VTI 2.6 and scam 3.59 some time ago and it worked. I have at the moment latest VIX 2.3.0 image installed and have tried to dig through this forum to see how I can install the latest relevant CCCam for VIX. Have found enigma2-plugin-cams-cccam.2.3.0_1.0_mipsel.ipk which I have copied to my tmp folder in VUDUO via my networked PC and then have installed via IPK on Duo. This is as far as I got - I've never done CCCam installation before and am total novice. I understand that I need to create Cccam.cfg file but only found advice how to do it for Sly card on this forum - no IrdetoIce. How do i get boxkey and smartcard frequency info needed? In addition the advice i found seems to be for people with far better understanding and i would need a bit more handholding/more detailed step-by-step guide - could you pls point me to the right section of this forum or provide bit more detailed advice? More importantly, could you pls confirm that CCCam would indeed achieve simultaneous multi-tuner usage of the single Irdeto ICE card? Apologies again for lengthy posting, have started from zero 12 month ago and still have a lot to learn! Thanks.

 

[Larry-G]

Im not really that knowledgeable when it comes to softcams my self but if you wanted to take full advantage of of your setup allowing both tuners the maximum use for both locations you could use a twin LNB for each location and a DiSEqC switch, allowing both tuners to be setup so that they can easily use both satellite locations.

 

[stakkabo]

Im not really that knowledgeable when it comes to softcams my self but if you wanted to take full advantage of of your setup allowing both tuners the maximum use for both locations you could use a twin LNB for each location and a DiSEqC switch, allowing both tuners to be setup so that they can easily use both satellite locations.

Sure - thanks for a quick response - that's what I have at the moment with my Tuner B. My problem is really full twin-tuner functionality with a single subscription card (on a single satellite), not multi satellite functionality. Hope it's clearer now.

 

[Larry-G]

The trouble is as you pointed out, most hardware cams do not allow for decoding more than one channel at a time, and as i said i am not particularly knowledgeable with softcams so i could not assist in setting up your CCcam.cfg file.

 

[stakkabo]

Is there anybody else with some experience with CCCam and Irdeto/ICE subscription cards? Sicilian perhaps? Or at least detailed step by step CCCam installation guide?