[VU+ Duo] New power manager help.

[andyblac]

I have noticed that the Vix Timer entry panel does not let you set an after event action whereas the "OPen Webif" interface does, although it does not appear to retain the setting.

When do log files get written? I have a log file which from the time, looks like it was written when I rebooted my ET9000 soon after it had mysteriously shut itself down.

sorry what?, i can set an after event using timer entry here np

 

[satnav]

Will do just watching footy, just to confirm same test gave same result.

 

[satnav]

Bad news guys update failed with blue moon screen and circles on box display!

 

[andyblac]

Bad news guys update failed with blue moon screen and circles on box display!

need log's please.

EDIT:

sorry guy's building fix now [448]

 

[machare]

debugging is a live memory process and as such debug logs are only written to storage at shutdown / reboot times ( unless they hit their maximum set limit first ).

So the last log written might explain why the receiver shut itself down?

 

[machare]

sorry what?, i can set an after event using timer entry here np

It was a zap timer - sorry to mislead you.

 

[judge]

Yes, or the previous log as a new one will start when the box reboots.

 

[satnav]

VIX446 is the same too, just repeated with a single program recording.

Sorry Andy same issue still exists with 449, set a single recording timer when finished gave screen shot!

 

[andyblac]

Sorry Andy same issue still exists with 449, set a single recording timer when finished gave screen shot!

need logs, but my guess is that a timer woke the box, and if so, that is correct behaviour, as AUTO now works, and tries to return box to the state it started. if you do not want this, set the after event to NONE

 

[satnav]

Thanks, yes the last timer was the power timer that woke the box up and is ready to start again with a deep standby later tonight.

I would have expected the Auto function in a record timer to pick up an expired power timer and shut the box down but not 12 hrs in advance. I have tried changing a recording timer to do nothing and that's what it does! To me it would be more user friendly to have the record timer default to do nothing as against always having to change it from Auto!

Based on what i think you are suggesting if I changed the order of my power timer from deep standby first then wake up to standby to the reverse order then a recording timer would put box into standby instead of deep standby, also not desirable.

happy to test if you wish

 

[andyblac]

Thanks, yes the last timer was the power timer that woke the box up and is ready to start again with a deep standby later tonight.

I would have expected the Auto function in a record timer to pick up an expired power timer and shut the box down but not 12 hrs in advance. I have tried changing a recording timer to do nothing and that's what it does! To me it would be more user friendly to have the record timer default to do nothing as against always having to change it from Auto!

Based on what i think you are suggesting if I changed the order of my power timer from deep standby first then wake up to standby to the reverse order then a recording timer would put box into standby instead of deep standby, also not desirable.

happy to test if you wish

can i see you log, please this should have been detected.

 

[satnav]

A couple of logs to warm you up mate.

 

[satnav]

Latest vix beta 456 POWER TIMER

Hi Guys, i have run some tests this morning after updating to latest Beta release. I have attached the log of those test and also sent to support.

1) A power timer is set running but not active, not green first stage to deep standby! I set a recording that worked fine finished without any request about turning box off.

2) A power timer set active and green with second stage to deep standby. I set a recording that was to finish before the power timer elapsed, at the end of the recording it asked to shut down the box! Why?

3) A power timer set active and green with second stage to standby. I set a recording that was to finish before the power timer elapsed, at the end of the recording it did nothing as required, by me! Based on test 2 why did it not ask to go to standby?

3) A power timer set active and green with second stage to deep standby. I set a recording that was to finish after the power timer elapsed, before the end of the recording the power timer asked to shut down the box! Why? I would have expected that the power timer would be deferred until the recording had finished using the auto feature.

As I am trying to help and not being sarcastic, am I missing the point please? is there something wrong with my logical expectations please?

 

[judge]

As I am trying to help and not being sarcastic, am I missing the point please? is there something wrong with my logical expectations please?

No, I wouldn't say you are missing the point, but you do know that power timers are a new addition to the image requiring massive re-coding by Andy.
Issues are bound to be found as this area should still be considered a work in progress.
Thanks for reporting them though.

 

[satnav]

Yes thanks I understand that dind not want you to think i was taking the p**s

 

[Rob van der Does]

ad 2 & 3: What was the action on completion as defined in the 2 timers?
ad 4: That's intended behaviour. A (power)timer doesn't know about the existence of another one.

 

[satnav]

ad 2 & 3: What was the action on completion as defined in the 2 timers?
ad 4: That's intended behaviour. A (power)timer doesn't know about the existence of another one.

As I said

2) (at the end of the recording it asked to shut down the box)

3) (at the end of the recording it did nothing as required)

4) it would appear that recording timers do know about power timers hence these results in (2)! The auto feature as the word implies should ideally look after this case (4) as is a definite requirement not to shut down in the middle of a recording, not that i am coding it but all possible in the goodness of time.

 

[Rob van der Does]

ad 2 & 3: no, I mean the action on completion of both the recording timers.

ad 4: again: that's intended behaviour, as timers are independant. And if you don't answer the question with 'yes' the box will not shut down.

 

[satnav]

OK I will test again shortly and post results.

But still makes no sense as why should a recording timer be asking to shut box down just because there is a power timer running that is hours away from shut down! I was on the under standing that Andy was agreeing with me on this.

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Originally Posted by satnav
Thanks, yes the last timer was the power timer that woke the box up and is ready to start again with a deep standby later tonight.

I would have expected the Auto function in a record timer to pick up an expired power timer and shut the box down but not 12 hrs in advance. I have tried changing a recording timer to do nothing and that's what it does! To me it would be more user friendly to have the record timer default to do nothing as against always having to change it from Auto!

Based on what i think you are suggesting if I changed the order of my power timer from deep standby first then wake up to standby to the reverse order then a recording timer would put box into standby instead of deep standby, also not desirable.

happy to test if you wish

can i see you log, please this should have been detected. ANDYBLAC

 

[satnav]

I don't believe it! the secrets of the black magic box has a new meaning!

I decide to reboot the box prior to my timer tests just so the log file would just show the latest activities. Low and behold what failed this morning on the same build now works!

A power timer running active green, next 2nd stage shut down, a recording finished prior to power timer setting with no comments, great as required.

A power timer running active green, next 2nd stage shut down, a recording set to finish after power timer shut down time, this gave a "3 minute count down timer, came up asking if to shut down" so ignored, at end of 3 mins a display of "a timer is in progress etc shut down yes/no?" great as required.

When the recording finished it then shut down, as I have not answered the request as if unattended. Brilliant as required.

Many thanks Andy for making the changes, all my previous issues posted today have now gone but i don't understand why they didn't work from the software update initially, may be you can tell from the log I posted..