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Microsoft: Don't have Internet? No Xbox One for you, get an Xbox 360 instead

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Xbox boss Don Mattrick, during an interview this week, had an interesting response for gamers who may not be fans of needing an always-on Internet connection.

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360,"
saidMattrick. "If you have zero access to the internet, that is an offline device."

Mattrick conveniently ignored the millions of gamers out there that may have slow or unstable Internet. The Xbox One requires authentication (phoning home) every 24 hours, even if you are playing in single player mode.

The company recently unveiled a slimmer, new form-factor Xbox 360 and announced hundreds of new games would still be headed to the console in the coming years, making it a perfectly usable platform.


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Xbox boss Don Mattrick, during an interview this week, had an interesting response for gamers who may not be fans of needing an always-on Internet connection.

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360,"
saidMattrick. "If you have zero access to the internet, that is an offline device."

Mattrick conveniently ignored the millions of gamers out there that may have slow or unstable Internet. The Xbox One requires authentication (phoning home) every 24 hours, even if you are playing in single player mode.

The company recently unveiled a slimmer, new form-factor Xbox 360 and announced hundreds of new games would still be headed to the console in the coming years, making it a perfectly usable platform.


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I never thought I'd say this, but I just hope that everyone will boycott the new console!

Not sure yet whether I will bother getting a next gen console, but if I do, doubt it'll be an Xbox one if things carry on going like they're making them...

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dear Microsoft,

How about i buy a PlayStation 4 instead?

a uhappyuser
 
I never thought I'd say this, but I just hope that everyone will boycott the new console!

Not sure yet whether I will bother getting a next gen console, but if I do, doubt it'll be an Xbox one if things carry on going like they're making them...

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I totally agree with you mate, i doubt i'll be going for the xbox one my self if they keep up with this rubbish. If apple made games consoles i'm pretty sure this is the way they would be going and frankly id rather just hang on to my 360.
 
sad thing is most people will buy it, and mr gates knows this, teenagers drive the market on consoles and i can just picture it now come December "dad can i have....". I will personally stick with my 360's there more configurable shall we say :)
 
Too many dowsides to the crappy XBOX ONE, this is just one of the downsides.
I love the 360 for online the controller and the gaming and online experience.
I do not need to be controlled, do not want pr need netflix, some twit calling me on skype when i am emersed in a call of duty game the god damn kinect listening constantly, let alone the rediculous prices to buy one.
I do not need nor want my console to be an entertaining system, it needs to be JUST a gaming console only.
Microsoft have really hit the fan with a load of **** on this one.
Was considering going to playstation but i play only call of duty which gives me a years entertainment and as Cod Ghost is released on the 360, i am happy.
Sony will outsell the Microsoft controlling outfit this time round
 
sad thing is most people will buy it, and mr gates knows this, teenagers drive the market on consoles and i can just picture it now come December "dad can i have....". I will personally stick with my 360's there more configurable shall we say :)

Nope, not in this household, both my lads are educated by i and will not be pressured by anyone, they are happy sticking with the 360.
The latest thing doesn't mean it is the right thing, just companies wanting your money.
Fact of this is, it is the parents whom want the so called easy life and spoil their kids for what they seem will be a quiet life.
Not the kids fault, the kids are a copy of the parenting they receive.
 
i will be sticking to PlayStation, i deviated once and ended up with the red ring of death.. never again Microsoft!! :mad:
 
I have two (flashed) 360's
Pick em up 2nd hand for a few quid these days :thumbsup:
 
It is totally ridiculous... Not every house hold has Internet. Why on earth do they need the Xbox to phone home every 24hrs is beyond me.

And as for the second hand games carry on I'm pretty sure Sony are going to win this year, Microsoft stand to lose out on a hell of a lot of money.
 
i will be sticking to PlayStation, i deviated once and ended up with the red ring of death.. never again Microsoft!! :mad:

Usually down to the xbox being enclosed in small space, not cleaned etc.
I have 2008, my sons have 2008 and 2010 fat version models and not once had ring of death.
Personally i open all 3 every 3-4 months and clean and remove any dust, clean laser lens, regrease laser guide tracks as i love doing it and saves me money not giving it to those robbing gits.
A plus is no faults ever.
The 360 is a cracking console and i am just glad i can continue with it for more years to come
 
>The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for shit value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam's model requires a limited used game model.


>The thing is, the DRM is really really similar to steam... You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)


>It's a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it's growing pains at the beginning with all it's drm shit as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too...) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted shit.


>Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.


>Competition is the best man, it helps drive both to new heights. See technology from the Cold War. If we had no USSR, we'd be way worse off today. TLDR: Bring it on Steam


2/4


>Yeah we passed that around the office at Xbox. Most of us were like "Well played Sony, Well played". That being said they are just riding the hype train of ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TO **** US FOR NO REASON. Without actually thinking about how convienent it would be for the majority of the time to not find that disc your brother didn't put back... [...] just simpleminded people not seeing the bigger picture. Some PS4 viral team made them all "U TOOK R DISCS" and they hiveminded.


>Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop ****s them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone bitches at MS. Well, if you want the @#$@ing from Gamestop, go play PS4.


>The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF ****ING ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We're TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution... it'sa bumpy road


>Publishers have enourmous power. Microsoft is trying to balance between consumer delight, and publisher wishes. If we cave to far in either direction you have a non-starting product. WiiU goes too far to consumer, you have no 3rd party support to shake a stick at. PS4 is status-quo. XB1 is trying to push some things, at the expense of others. We have a vision, we'll see if it works in the coming years


>Living room transformation. We want to own the living room. Every living room TV with an XBox on input one. It's the thing that gives the signal to your TV, everything is secondary. The future, where games, TV, internet telephony, all that shit happens magically on some huge ass screen with hand / voice gestures... That's our goal.




3/4


>Google TV + PS4 + Minority report level gestures, that combined with a sick second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I know I know.. tv tv tv tv tv... but it's ****ing sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a childs toy.


>By default it's on, listening for "Xbox On". You can turn it off tho, and turn the console like OFF off. OFF off is required for Germany / other countries that require it (no vampire appliances) [...] It has to be plugged in for the console to post. You can turn off everything it does from the settings. Think of it like airplane mode for the iPhone. You can't just unplug the cellular radio, but you can turn it off.


>Instead of 10mins, is 24hrs for your console, and 1 or 2 at a friends house. Really the majority of people have a speck of internet at least once a day. And if you don't. Don't buy an Xbox 1. Just like if you didn't have a broadband connection don't get Live, and if you don't have an HDTV the 360 isn't that great for you either. New tech, new req. This allows us to do cool shit when we can assume things like you have a kinect, you have internet, etc.


>Current plan is basically you're ****ed after 24 hours. Yeah... I know. Kind of sucks. I believe they will probably revist the time period and / or find a diff way to "call in" to ensure you haven't sold your license to gamestop or something... but there is no plan YET. I'm hoping the change it, but I don't work on that so I don't have much influence there /sigh


>If the power goes out you ain't playing shit. I'm assuming you mean the internet goes out but you have power for TV and Xbox. Yes, You're ****ed for single player games. Again, that's the PoR (Plan of record), but I expect it to change after the e3 cluster****


>What fee? There is no fee to play your games at your friends house. Never has, never will. Even x360 digital downloads could do that.




4/4


>The cloud capabilities is the shit they like the most. We basically made a huge cloud compute shit and made it free. What people are doing with it is kind of cool. THe original intention was to get all the Multiplayer servers not requiring 3rd party costs (Like EA shutting down game servers to cut costs), as well as taking all the games that servers hosted by the clients (Halo, etc), and have all that compute done in the cloud allowing more CPU cycles for gameplay. That will really expand what developers can do. Anything that doesn't need per frame calculation and can handle 100ms delays can be shifted to the cloud. That's huge.


>SmartGlass + IE is going to be pretty freaking sweet. 1 finger cursor, 2 finger direct manip. Basically if you think of a laptop trackpad where your phone/ slate is the trackpad and the monitor is your TV... it's that. The tech is there, just needs to be applied. There is some really cool shit going on with Petra + controllers that pairs people with controllers. So if person with controller two trades controlers with controller 1, their profiles magically switch. It's sick. What does this matter? Now if you lean left/right it knows which person is leaning, even if 4 people are all int he same room. It's awesome.


>New service using Azure for cloud compute. Allows developers to not use clients for hosting multiplayer servers, or other tasks that do not require per frame calcuations. It's pretty sweet.


>Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1 > PS4. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PS4.


This was all from the Microsoft engineer that was on /b/ last night.


>It's not worth my time to prove it, or risk my Job. I work in Studio A, 40th ave in Redmond, Wa. The thai place in the studio cafeteria has double punch wednesdays. Go ahead and call them and verify if you want.

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