[TM-TWIN-OE] TM-TWIN Random Reboots

[mabozza]

Thanks again Abu,

Just to clarify, my hard disk is a 1Tb internal.


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Hi Stilts, I'm pretty sure there is a limit of 500gb with TM2T, I would think this would be the same with the Twin. I remember doing an install for a friend who likes to know the full tech specs of everything he buys, he informed me of the 500gb limit on the 2T, he's very rarely wrong on such matters! Whether that is what is causing the random reboots, can't be sure but I would try disconnecting the hdd to see if that helps. I've had many TM receivers & had a lot of different problems but never had random reboots. Hope this helps mate!

 

[judge]

Hi Stilts, I'm pretty sure there is a limit of 500gb with TM2T, I would think this would be the same with the Twin.

Nope, I had a 1TB HDD in my TM2T & TM-TWIN, all worked fine. HDD size restrictions isn't different on any supported ViX box.

 

[stilts]

Thanks guys!

I've also seen these boxes being sold with 1Tb drives too, but, obviously due to driver updates etc it might be worth testing this with the latest images to see if the problem occurs, however, I don't have a spare 500Gb drive.

I could however remove the disk and monitor


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[stilts]

Hi Everyone,

I've decided to reflash with the latest bootloader and Vix image along with removing the internal hard disk as a way to try and prove that it's hard disk related.

Upon downloading the bootloader and extracting it though I've noticed that it contains two folders in the main 'update' folder:

tmtwin
tmtwinoe

Should I leave both of these in place or remove one (the Vix image update only has the 'tmtwinoe' folder).


Thanks!

 

[abu baniaz]

Please delete the tmtwin folder to be on teh safe side.

The reason there are two folders is just in case people are on a really old bootloader which won't use tmtwinoe.

 

[stilts]

Thanks Abu!


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[stilts]

All flashed successfully (again lol), boot loader and Apollo 071.

All running, no internal hard disk running, no timeshift etc.

Will post back again after monitoring for a few days.

Cheers!


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[abu baniaz]

Recording and Playback to a USB device posted below. Note how the System's CPU usage jumps from 1.2% to 43.7%

#recording to USB HDD
root@tmnano:~# top
top - 02:20:28 up 7 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.09, 0.13, 0.08
Tasks:  64 total,   1 running,  63 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  1.0%us,  1.2%sy,  0.7%ni, 97.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.2%si,  0.0%st
Mem:    137272k total,   125020k used,    12252k free,      284k buffers
Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    59252k cached


#playback from USB HDD
root@tmnano:~# top
top - 02:23:29 up 10 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.54, 0.21, 0.11
Tasks:  62 total,   2 running,  60 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  9.2%us, 43.7%sy,  0.0%ni, 46.4%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.7%si,  0.0%st
Mem:    137272k total,   126692k used,    10580k free,      488k buffers
Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,    65664k cached

 

[stilts]

Interesting Abu,

Do you have other stats for similar testing on Helios etc. is this a new issue with Apollo?


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[stilts]

Well back on 4D again, 1 reboot yesterday with no hard disk installed.

Staying with 4D until Vix gets new Technomate drivers.


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[stilts]

Just though I'd provide another update (in case anyone is interested).

4D remained stable, however, I was finding myself missing quite a few features/plugins of Vix, but, Vix simply reboots on my TWIN, I therefore gave OpenATV a try.

First impressions, quite impressed, a very crisp and clean looking image (the default skin looks great), it also had all of the plugins that I was familiar with obtaining from Vix (unlike 4D), however, this image too has randomly rebooted my unit (enabled debug logs yesterday evening but haven't had the chance to look at them).

My gut feel on this at the moment is that the box reboots whilst watching HD channels (FTA HD), it seems stable watching SD, I have nothing to back this up at the moment, it's more observational than anything.

So, a question (maybe Abu can answer), is it possible for me to extract the driver files associated with TM-TWIN hardware from the 4D image and transfer them over to the appropriate driver file directory in order to test to see if it is then stable (an odd request I know, but I'm curious)?


Cheers!

 

[abu baniaz]

The 4D image is stuck at August drivers and kernel. I think Helios 17 was last Vix image for the TM 7335 units with those kernel/drivers. The OpenATV image uses the newer ones. And to be honest, they push the updates. We are usually last to know about it.

There was a new kernel/drivers set in Apollo 88. I have briefly tried it for the Automatic Time Shift issue, so my test is nof no help. Changelogs have not mentioned anything about these reboots.

Back to your question, AFAIK, you cannot implant both into newer image. One depends on the other too.

 

[stilts]

Thanks Abu!

So, are you saying that new kernel and drivers for TM-TWIN went into Apollo 88?

Do you think it warrants me giving it a try?

 

[abu baniaz]

Thanks Abu!
So, are you saying that new kernel and drivers for TM-TWIN went into Apollo 88?
Do you think it warrants me giving it a try?

Yes.
And yes. But test your theory about HD channels too.

If I can sort out this spaghetti junction of wires, I'll see if I can put the Nano on test too.

 

[stilts]

Hi Abu,

Updated the version of OpenATV to package created today (20141120), this had a driver set dated 12th November, however, whilst watching BBC One HD earlier this evening it rebooted again.

I have since re-flashed with bootloader and latest image of Apollo (88) from Vix, this also has a driver set dated 12th November, so, at the moment I'm thinking that at some point it will reboot again, the kernel version is the same as previous too (3.9.7), so this doesn't look like it's been updated as previously mentioned.

I'll keep monitoring.


Cheers!

 

[stilts]

One other thing, can I use the same bootloader from Vix website for the OpenATV images as well as Vix (I previously flashed with one from OpenATV website), it will save me a bit of time testing different images that's all?


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[abu baniaz]

We were told all images use the same bootloader.

 

[stilts]

Thanks Abu!


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[stilts]

Evening everyone!

The box rebooted 3 times yesterday evening when I was out (I know this as I have duplicate recording entries from timers), however, I didn't have logging enabled whilst out.

I have had another reboot a short while ago, and please find attached log file, logging was done using an RS232 so hopefully some more information in this file (I think that the important stuff starts from around line 356) - note, running image at the moment is from OpenATV but guessing that the logging information is still relevant.

Thanks in advance!



stilts

 

[abu baniaz]

There is also a kernel issue in there.

Please email the log with link to this thread to

[email protected]

Ring up tomorrow and ask for Richard, ensure that they have received the email.

Explain any issues of the situation that he requires clarification on and he should be able to send to the developers to look at it.

020 8884 0259