Satellite dish motorised setup

[bmitie]

I dont think he realises I am holding his hand over on techkings. I wondered why he took ages to get back to me. The good news is that he can now get sats 0/8w to 46 east the bad news is he has asked me again about setting motor to 0. I have loads of spare time. And he has totally confused himself by asking all over the pplace.

Now if wolves could only confuse city

 

[chris0147]

Your best bet is to pay a professional to come and do it for you.

I don't need to as I can do it myself. Shame that people like you can't be nice to help others to resolve the ongoing problem :thumbsup:

 

[chris0147]

I still can't get the move to move to 0.8west when the whole rig is set to 0 due to south.

When I moved the whole rig to dead straight with the motor set to 0 and when I selected on a channel on 0.8west, the motor won't move. I have done the factory reset on the receiver and I have put the correct latitude and longitude in the usuals.

When I selected on a channel on 0.8west the motor still won't move. I can only get the signals when I move the whole rig from dead straight to 0.8west.

Can I ask how do you get the motor to move to 0.8west when I move the whole rig to dead straight with 0 due to south?

I want to get it done correctly so I can move on.

 

[Huevos]

Post a screengrab of your tuner configuration.

 

[dickie666]

when motor at 0 and you move to 0.8w the dish will not move or just a tiny bit if you have the motor setup about right 0 and 0.8 are less than a degree and has in the post before if you can get music channel with good figures you are just about setup and should be able to pick a good few satellites up. If your mounting pole is not plumb in all directions left/right front/back when the motor and dish are on it you need lots of time up the ladders setting your system up this is the most important thing in any install.

 

[chris0147]

when motor at 0 and you move to 0.8w the dish will not move or just a tiny bit if you have the motor setup about right 0 and 0.8 are less than a degree and has in the post before if you can get music channel with good figures you are just about setup and should be able to pick a good few satellites up. If your mounting pole is not plumb in all directions left/right front/back when the motor and dish are on it you need lots of time up the ladders setting your system up this is the most important thing in any install.

Oh right, so how I can get the dish to move when I setup the rig on dead straight as the motor is 0 due to south?

Do I have to disable usuals, reset the motor, disconnect the cable from the motor, select al jazeera english on 0.8west, turn off power, reconnect the cable to the motor, turn on the receiver, turn on the usuals and select al jazeera english to get the motor moving?

If not can you give me step to step with what I need to do to get the motor moving??

 

[redrobin]

slightly loosen the bolts connecting the motor to the pole and then manually move the motor by hand to the left or right whilst watching the signal strength. Once you have a good signal, tighten the bolts, then you can try adjusting the vertical angle of the dish to see if the signal improves. The movements need to be small.
Then use the receiver to send the dish to another satellite, if the pole is true you should get a signal.

 

[dickie666]

The box talks to the motor via the cable so in the box you need your lat and long inputted and usals switched on and of cause a channel list which is upto date. Thats after the dish is on the motor arm spot on and the motor is on the pole spot on plumb. Then send the dish to 0.8w and the music channel the one thats not encrepyted.

if you do not get a picture then follow this guide. 2 people with a phone each one at the dish motor the other watching the telly. undo the u clamps just so you can move the motor with a bit of effort. slowly in the direction use choose turn the motor very very slowly if the person watching the telly sees a picture tell them to tell the person on the motor to STOP.

Right person on telly then needs to change channel to another clear channel on 0.8w and see if its the correct one or if you have sat finder on your box when its on any channel with a good signal it will tell you which satellite its locked onto if you flick through the transponders and find the strongest one.

Right if the sat finder does not say 0.8w BUT the have a picture and the satellite which you are locked on thats a point which you can start from.

on the box go to a clear channel on the satellite being shown on the sat finder and look which way the motor turns the dish. So if it moves left then you need to move the motor by hand right and visa/versa. Back to where you had a picture and same satellite on the sat finder.

Right now you are roughly setup.

send the dish via the box to the music channel on 0.8w and do the fine tunning as in the other posts on this thread.

If you cannot follow this guide then there is just no hope or just spend a few quid on a good installer in your area someone with a good meter and at least a bit of a cule.

P.S. This has been one hard thread to help out on when all the info and videos are all over the Web some cracking setup videos on Youtube. It helps have a meter for a start even if you can lend one.

 

[bmitie]

read post 15

He can now get 0.8w to 42e, but has now gone off on a tangent. I have given up. Obstruction for rest of west.

 

[dickie666]

so if he is setup what his he after :sofahide:im now also at a loss

 

[Joe_90]

Oh right, so how I can get the dish to move when I setup the rig on dead straight as the motor is 0 due to south?

Do I have to disable usuals, reset the motor, disconnect the cable from the motor, select al jazeera english on 0.8west, turn off power, reconnect the cable to the motor, turn on the receiver, turn on the usuals and select al jazeera english to get the motor moving?

If not can you give me step to step with what I need to do to get the motor moving??

chris - can you provide photos of your motor setup when the dish is pointing south (at zero on the motor) and also when it is pointing at 0.8W. Your south (with motor at zero) is 1.3E (as that is your longitude). When you select a channel on 0.8W, the motor will turn 2.1 degrees to the west in order to point at 0.8W. Two degrees on a motor will take less than a second. You would barely notice the turn. As redrobin posted, your adjustments, when needed, will be tiny. In some cases, tightening one side of the motor U-bolt will bring a weak satellite in.

 

[bmitie]

He can get from 0.8w to 42 east, rest of west is blocked. I have given up. By the way he did not even say thanks

 

[TK4|2|1]

He PM me back in November. All the info given here is exactly what I told him back then.
Yesterday I picked up a secondhand 80cm dish and motor (£30 bargain), in about an hour I had it installed and tracking all sats, using my smart phone.
It’s not that hard.


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[ronand]

I blocked him months ago. He was pestering me by pm and refused to post on the forum instead. He wouldn't pay for a proper T & K then. And he still hasn't the dish sorted.

 

[Joe_90]

Damn, I'd forgotten that I tried to help him on the other thread and suggested a proper pair of T&K brackets. There's no hope of getting the arc tracking consistent using a fixed dish bracket like he has - galvanised or not. I'm out:zoom:

 

[chris0147]

He PM me back in November. All the info given here is exactly what I told him back then.
Yesterday I picked up a secondhand 80cm dish and motor (£30 bargain), in about an hour I had it installed and tracking all sats, using my smart phone.
It’s not that hard.


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It might be not that hard for you but it is hard for me to get the rig on dead straight. I tried to get the dish to move when I select on any sats so it won't move.

I don't know how you do that, but did you turned off usuals and disconnected the cable from the motor before you move the rig to dead straight?

And did you reset on the motor?

 

[Huevos]

It might be not that hard for you but it is hard for me to get the rig on dead straight. I tried to get the dish to move when I select on any sats so it won't move.

I don't know how you do that, but did you turned off usuals and disconnected the cable from the motor before you move the rig to dead straight?

And did you reset on the motor?

Which is why I suggested you get a professional.

 

[bmitie]

Chris you told me this on PM's " Yes the dish does move when I select 16east but I'm trying to get the rig on dead straight but at the moment I have moved the rig to 0.8west."

That is correct by the way. So give over and watch tv.

 

[stargateuser]

I have had no end of fun explaining to different people that 28e is not 28e in the sky, it is 28e at the EQUATOR not 28degs east of North when dialled on a compass. That is the hardest thing that people have to get to grips with, once the penny drops you see them go "Ah ha!" I have an old sat slide (ex-military one) and use that to explain.

I didn't know about the USALS being able to be set up on any sat, the only issue with that would be setting the LNB skew, which if set on 0.8w would be spot on

 

[Joe_90]

I have had no end of fun explaining to different people that 28e is not 28e in the sky, it is 28e at the EQUATOR not 28degs east of North when dialled on a compass. That is the hardest thing that people have to get to grips with, once the penny drops you see them go "Ah ha!" I have an old sat slide (ex-military one) and use that to explain.

I didn't know about the USALS being able to be set up on any sat, the only issue with that would be setting the LNB skew, which if set on 0.8w would be spot on

On a motorised system you would normally set the LNB straight in the holder (no skew). The cable(s) from the LNB would be at six o'clock when the dish was pointing at your southernmost satellite. If you are in east or central England, this would be 0.8w. In my case the southernmost satellite is 5W. As the motor turns, the dish and LNB will skew automatically to the correct angle for different satellites east or west of your location. The satellite position of the Astra satellites (28.2E) would locate them directly overhead the Democratic Republic of Congo. For someone near Istanbul in Turkey 28.2E would be their southernmost satellite, for example.