[Zgemma H7] Weird EPG errors. EPG Refresh. Recent versions of OpenViX e.g. 5.4.008.

[bbbuk]

I've had intermittent results with EPG delete via menu also tbh.

@adm, you put box to deep sleep don't you (presumably timed)? As a test, is it worth seeing if EPG can be deleted via that script to fully ensure it's deleted?

Then when box is woken up, it will have (in theory) no epg.dat then EPG download can be done.

 

[something_fishy]

A feast of spurious mid-morning programs today:

BBC1HD: Margin call 11:44-13:24 interjecting on Crimewatch Live 11:00-11:45 and Defenders UK 11:45-12:14
BBC2HD: Mindhorn 11:49-13:09 over BBC news 10:00-12:15 and Politics Live 12:15-13:00
ITV Anglia HD: Die Another Day 11:29-13:54 over This Morning 10:00-12:30 and Loose Women 12:30-113:30
C4HD: Knight and Day 10:24-12:29 over Frasier
Ch5HD: When Cruises go horribly wrong 11:49-13:14 over George Clarkes New Build... 11:15-12:15
BBC4HD: TOTP 12:04-12:34 over programmes start ... 11:30-17:30
BBC1 East E: (as BBC1HD)

I've only noticed them on BBC2HD before, but that might be because they're easier to spot there rather than sign of a real change.
My box never goes to sleep BTW and openTV is updating every three hours.

 

[adm]

A feast of spurious mid-morning programs today:

BBC1HD: Margin call 11:44-13:24 interjecting on Crimewatch Live 11:00-11:45 and Defenders UK 11:45-12:14
BBC2HD: Mindhorn 11:49-13:09 over BBC news 10:00-12:15 and Politics Live 12:15-13:00
ITV Anglia HD: Die Another Day 11:29-13:54 over This Morning 10:00-12:30 and Loose Women 12:30-113:30
C4HD: Knight and Day 10:24-12:29 over Frasier
Ch5HD: When Cruises go horribly wrong 11:49-13:14 over George Clarkes New Build... 11:15-12:15
BBC4HD: TOTP 12:04-12:34 over programmes start ... 11:30-17:30
BBC1 East E: (as BBC1HD)

I've only noticed them on BBC2HD before, but that might be because they're easier to spot there rather than sign of a real change.
My box never goes to sleep BTW and openTV is updating every three hours.

Just to report that I see none of those problems today. This may rule out the actual information from the source and it's more to do with something that is happening on the box itself and possibly at the time the box updates the information and/or when the box is switched on. Timing is likely to be very different for every box owner.

 

[ronand]

I see all those bad entries. My box was in standby (I rarely use deep standby) and opentvzapper is set to refresh every 3 hours

 

[bbbuk]

I use CrossEPG as I've mentioned earlier and dont have any of these issues and I have most EPG sources on (like EiT, OpenTV, FreeSat, etc).

Anyhow, I noticed a channel had a schedule change that must have been after 6.05am EPG update I run. EPG showed old schedule until the time came so assumed EiT changed this. I noticed it kept going back to old data and only would update to latest schedule when I was on it.

I got around this by saving EPG from within menu and it then showed new correct data.

I actually have EPG set to automatically save every 12 hours so have now increased this to 6. I have never noticed any issues with it saving every 12 hours and only increased how often it save so it saves last min schedule changes bit more often.

So what i'm getting at is when someone has these ghost entries, does doing a EPG save from menu and going back into EPG mitigate this?

 

[something_fishy]

Also on S4C, 4Seven, Ch4 (same as 4HD), 5USA, BBC red button, Film 4+1, ROK (I don't know what this channel is)
And most of the movie channels.

 

[ccs]

So what i'm getting at is when someone has these ghost entries, does doing a EPG save from menu and going back into EPG mitigate this?

I'd be surprised if it made any difference as it (should) only copy the epg cache to epg.dat. Worth a try though if anyone still has the overlaps showing.

 

[something_fishy]

@bbbuk
Saving the EPG cache makes no difference to me. Nor does saving the cache and then (re)loading the cache.

 

[ccs]

A feast of spurious mid-morning programs today:

ITV Anglia HD: Die Another Day 11:29-13:54 over This Morning 10:00-12:30 and Loose Women 12:30-113:30

As far as I can tell, this was broadcast on Saturday 6th (2 days ago) on ITV at 23:05 'til 01:30.

 

[something_fishy]

As far as I can see they were all broadcast late Saturday crossing midnight:
Margin call: 23:20-01:00
Mindhorn: 23:25-00:45
Die another day: 23:05-01:30
Knight and Day: 22:00-00:05
Cruises...: 23:25-00:50
TOTP (20/09/1990): 23:40-00:10
So the program durations are correct but they're offset by 36 hours 24 minutes.

 

[ccs]

This commit makes me wish I understood a lot more.....

[epgcache] OpenTV: Use event_id from SI tables

Having the event_id available means if the event start time changes the stale data will be removed from the cache rather than co-existing alongside the new fresh data.

https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commit/0731baaaa16d7985cb42b003d3ec50dd5631b871

https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commits/master/lib/dvb/epgcache.cpp

 

[BrokenUnusableAccount]

This commit makes me wish I understood a lot more.....

https://github.com/OpenViX/enigma2/commit/0731baaaa16d7985cb42b003d3ec50dd5631b871

I think that one is a result of this discussion about making the VPS plugin work again:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?62706-EPG-Refresh-iEPG-and-VPS

 

[birdman]

I think that one is a result of this discussion about making the VPS plugin work again:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?62706-EPG-Refresh-iEPG-and-VPS

No, it's not connected.

 

[something_fishy]

Programs that aired crossing midnight this morning are appearing in the schedule for Tuesday AM (again lagged by 36 hrs 24 minutes). Look for The Womens Football Show (BBC1), Festival of Funny (BBC2), Trauma (ITV), Amsterdam Vice (C4), Family Guy (ITV2).

I so far haven't found one if the original air date doesn't cross midnight, but I have found programs that cross midnight that don't appear repeated (eg Space Cowboys ITV4).

 

[spanner123]

Why not use CrossEPG, it's works fine 99% of the time!

 

[something_fishy]

Why not use CrossEPG, it's works fine 99% of the time!

Firstly because the developers might want to fix it, secondly because I like the idea of pulling the data direct from the satellite feed as it opens the door for real time (or at least intraday) updates. I'd hate to miss my Chris Whitty fix just because I thought it was Pointless.

 

[adm]

Why not use CrossEPG, it's works fine 99% of the time!

As long as the person/organisation supporting the method still has an interest in it. So many plugins have gone obsolete or “private” once the author has lost interest in it or its starts costing money when the bandwidth by people accessing the information becomes excessive.

 

[BrokenUnusableAccount]

Why not use CrossEPG, it's works fine 99% of the time!

I've always been put off by it's buggy seemingly unfinished user interface.
For instance just selecting it from the plugins menu after installing it crashes the box or if you do it again makes the screen flash a few times in a weird way.
Also presumably it can't to Freesat for Radio EPG or the Freeview EPG, and it can't then automatically run my autotimer search.

 

[abu baniaz]

Firstly because the developers might want to fix it, secondly because I like the idea of pulling the data direct from the satellite feed as it opens the door for real time (or at least intraday) updates. I'd hate to miss my Chris Whitty fix just because I thought it was Pointless.

CrossEPG has two methods of EPG acquisition. The most commonly used one by our image users is the one that "pulls data direct from the satellite feed".

CrossEPG is too convuluted to update.

Use the method/s that work best for your setup.

 

[spanner123]

I've always been put off by it's buggy seemingly unfinished user interface.
For instance just selecting it from the plugins menu after installing it crashes the box or if you do it again makes the screen flash a few times in a weird way.
Also presumably it can't to Freesat for Radio EPG or the Freeview EPG, and it can't then automatically run my autotimer search.

Never had any of that in all the years I have been using it. Most radio stations have full EPG which I think only works if you have Freesat EPG enabled.