[ViX_Misc] EPG Refresh, iEPG and VPS

[abu baniaz]

Please ignore my previous post. Looks like 5 minutes was not enough for Freesat EPG. I should really have used the fast transponder.

With the patch, I can confirm that the event_ID/ EIT number is now the same.

Old Freesat

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="19327" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

Old OpenTV

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="38808" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

New Freesat

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="19327" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

New OpenTV

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="19327" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

 

[goRt]

Please ignore my previous post. Looks like 5 minutes was not enough for Freesat EPG. I should really have used the fast transponder.

With the patch, I can confirm that the event_ID/ EIT number is now the same.

Old Freesat

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="19327" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

Old OpenTV

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="38808" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

New Freesat

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="19327" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

New OpenTV

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<timers>
<timer begin="1612027680" end="1612029720" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Celebrity Catchpoint" description="2/4. Paddy McGuinness is the man with big questions and even bigger balls in Celebrity Catchpoint. Ore Oduba and Kelvin Fletcher take on the Rev Kate Bottley and the Rev Richard Coles. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="19327" tags="Celebrity_Catchpoint"/>
</timers>

That's great that the correct eit is now produced from openTV, but is that just coming from now/next, in which case it looks complex to update all timers as they roll into the now/next window

or have I misses something?

 

[abu baniaz]

I did not use now/next EIT EPG as I wanted to test something further ahead to allow more tests.

 

[goRt]

I did not use now/next EIT EPG as I wanted to test something further ahead to allow more tests.

OK, so are you saying that openTV from iEPG-1 is now processed correctly giving a valid eit?

 

[Joe_90]

@gort - I've just updated to the latest dev version. Cleared EPG cache and have disabled the Freesat EPG reader. Just enabled the OpenTV reader and allowed it to repopulate the EPG. I set a timer for QI XL on BBC2HD for 21.15. The timer has the event id 18679. I separately fired up my TS analyser on my PC and analysed the schedule EIT (Freesat) for the same channel. It has the same event id of 0x48F7 - which is the hex equivalent of 18679. So, I believe the event ID will match what will be delivered in the now/next EIT that VPS is expecting.

 

[goRt]

@gort - I've just updated to the latest dev version. Cleared EPG cache and have disabled the Freesat EPG reader. Just enabled the OpenTV reader and allowed it to repopulate the EPG. I set a timer for QI XL on BBC2HD for 21.15. The timer has the event id 18679. I separately fired up my TS analyser on my PC and analysed the schedule EIT (Freesat) for the same channel. It has the same event id of 0x48F7 - which is the hex equivalent of 18679. So, I believe the event ID will match what will be delivered in the now/next EIT that VPS is expecting.

That's excellent news, thank you

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[Joe_90]

Yes - I've confirmed that a timer set from the EPG generated by the updated reader code will have a match with the EIT now/next event Id. Just tested it with an upcoming programme. I have not used the VPS plugin, but I may experiment with it. Most programmes work ok for me with the existing auto timers. I presume the VPS plugin interacts with the timers.xml data and modifies the settings "on the fly"?

 

[goRt]

Yes - I've confirmed that a timer set from the EPG generated by the updated reader code will have a match with the EIT now/next event Id. Just tested it with an upcoming programme. I have not used the VPS plugin, but I may experiment with it. Most programmes work ok for me with the existing auto timers. I presume the VPS plugin interacts with the timers.xml data and modifies the settings "on the fly"?

That's how it appears to work, when you look at timers.xml after recordings then you see the start time being delayed until the now/next signal changes, at the end then the end time is similarly updated.

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[ccs]

I separately fired up my TS analyser on my PC and analysed the schedule EIT.

Out of interest, which TS analyser are you using, I'm sure I've used one in the dim and distant past, but can't for the life of me find it anymore?

 

[Joe_90]

It's the TS Analyser that comes with DVBViewer. I bought a licence years ago. It's on my Windows 7 machine which I use only rarely.

 

[goRt]

@gort - I've just updated to the latest dev version. Cleared EPG cache and have disabled the Freesat EPG reader. Just enabled the OpenTV reader and allowed it to repopulate the EPG. I set a timer for QI XL on BBC2HD for 21.15. The timer has the event id 18679. I separately fired up my TS analyser on my PC and analysed the schedule EIT (Freesat) for the same channel. It has the same event id of 0x48F7 - which is the hex equivalent of 18679. So, I believe the event ID will match what will be delivered in the now/next EIT that VPS is expecting.

I also get an eit of 18679 from crossEPG and freeview.

 

[Huevos]

@gort - I've just updated to the latest dev version. Cleared EPG cache and have disabled the Freesat EPG reader. Just enabled the OpenTV reader and allowed it to repopulate the EPG. I set a timer for QI XL on BBC2HD for 21.15. The timer has the event id 18679. I separately fired up my TS analyser on my PC and analysed the schedule EIT (Freesat) for the same channel. It has the same event id of 0x48F7 - which is the hex equivalent of 18679. So, I believe the event ID will match what will be delivered in the now/next EIT that VPS is expecting.

Freesat doesn't have EIT schedule. There is no EIT schedule on 28 east, only now/next. Freesat EPG is a proprietary system.

Have you got a transport stream recorded?

 

[Huevos]

I also get an eit of 18679 from crossEPG and freeview.

Do you mean Freesat? Freeview is terrestrial.

 

[goRt]

Duplicate...

 

[goRt]

Freesat doesn't have EIT schedule. There is no EIT schedule on 28 east, only now/next. Freesat EPG is a proprietary system.

Have you got a transport stream recorded?

I've asked previously where the eit field populated in the timers comes from, no one has answered but software has been developed to utilise it

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[Huevos]

Ok, well I can't test Freeview because I live on the moon.

 

[ccs]

I also get an eit of 18679 from crossEPG and freeview.

Do you mean Freesat? Freeview is terrestrial.

I checked freeview earlier and got eit=18679.

 

[Joe_90]

Freesat doesn't have EIT schedule. There is no EIT schedule on 28 east, only now/next. Freesat EPG is a proprietary system.

Have you got a transport stream recorded?

It most certainly does! The DVBViewer Pro TS Analyser shows the Freesat EIT now/next and the schedule on most transponders. The SKY-specific transponder has no EIT showing as you say - just the private sections which I presume the OpenTV reader is parsing.


EDIT - I'll see if I can extract an XML file of the schedule from BBC2HD on 10847V and post it later

Here is an XML file from TS Analyser. The longer you leave the analyser on the channel transponder, the more data is downloaded. Just like the Freesat reader in Vix - after 10-15 minutes the whole week's EPG is transmitted? Just search this file for "QI XL" and you will see the details for the current programme being transmitted.

 

[Joe_90]

Here is a screenshot of the TS Reader from my Win 7 machine showing the transponder analysis where I drilled down to BBC Two HD.

If the image is too small to view, try the attached zip file which should blow up sufficiently.

 

[Huevos]

It most certainly does! The DVBViewer Pro TS Analyser shows the Freesat EIT now/next and the schedule on most transponders. The SKY-specific transponder has no EIT showing as you say - just the private sections which I presume the OpenTV reader is parsing.


EDIT - I'll see if I can extract an XML file of the schedule from BBC2HD on 10847V and post it later

Here is an XML file from TS Analyser. The longer you leave the analyser on the channel transponder, the more data is downloaded. Just like the Freesat reader in Vix - after 10-15 minutes the whole week's EPG is transmitted? Just search this file for "QI XL" and you will see the details for the current programme being transmitted.

Your image confirms it does not have "EIT schedule", just now/next. Freesat EPG is something else.

EIT schedule looks like this: