[ABM-MISC] HD swap discussion

[Huevos]

This maybe possible with the bouquet regions in conditional swap.

No. That is not a route we are going to take. Swap means swap. Always has done, even when there was just one ITV HD channel.

The current list produced in the main and sections bouquets (when swap is disabled) is exactly what the broadcaster is sending. If one area has a different order compared to another area it is because that is what the broadcaster is sending. If one area has a substitute ITV channel, not an equivalent one that is because that is what the broadcaster is sending. It is nothing to do with ABM.

 

[dsayers]

No. That is not a route we are going to take. Swap means swap. Always has done, even when there was just one ITV HD channel.

The current list produced in the main and sections bouquets (when swap is disabled) is exactly what the broadcaster is sending. If one area has a different order compared to another area it is because that is what the broadcaster is sending. If one area has a substitute ITV channel, not an equivalent one that is because that is what the broadcaster is sending. It is nothing to do with ABM.

Maybe true but looking at the TV guide it doesn't match what ABM scans pull in. Maybe Sky UK are just sending as SD and the official box does the swap if its an HD box. Either way im happy with 1 to 4 HD swaps

 

[lincsat]

I'll stick with the older files, not perfect but a whole lot better than the new versions.

Doesn't anyone else get the messed up main (HD) bouquet when using VM only.

 

[Huevos]

Actually got me thinking, Maybe 801 to 804 is for local regions so if one region doesn't have there area in HD it will be in the primary bouquets. Looking at my bouquets for North West Yorkshire in the secondary bouquet I have:

BBC 2 HD = 802
ITV HD = 803

and

BBC 1 HD 115
Channel 4 HD 138

So the way Lincsat wants it is just have 801 to 804 swaps then it wont swap none local HD channels as they are in primary bouquet. That would make sense how Sky are actually doing it.

Which would make BBC Two HD a simulcast of BBC Two Eng. Need to record the news and check.

 

[Huevos]

I'll stick with the older files, not perfect but a whole lot better than the new versions.

Doesn't anyone else get the messed up main (HD) bouquet when using VM only.

I think you are using a mismatch of files.

 

[dsayers]

I'll stick with the older files, not perfect but a whole lot better than the new versions.

Doesn't anyone else get the messed up main (HD) bouquet when using VM only.

Are you using ABM 3.0? a lot of python code has changed.

 

[lincsat]

Are you using ABM 3.0? a lot of python code has changed.

Yes, I downloaded the latest from the Git

 

[Huevos]

Yes, I downloaded the latest from the Git

For VM UK HD bouquets the files on github should give you 108, 162, 113, 141, 150 as the first 5 channels. If not something is wrong with the files.

 

[abu baniaz]

I'm lost. Are we discussing:

Swap for Sky UK
Swap for Virgin UK
Only swapping for ITV HD channels if there is a local HD service for Sky UK
Only swapping for BBC HD channels if there is a local HD service for Sky UK
Only swapping for ITV HD channels if there is a local HD service for Virgin
Only swapping for BBC HD channels if there is a local HD service for Virgin
HD on top for SD Sky regions
HD on top for HD Sky regions
HD on top for Virgin regions
None of the above
All of the above

 

[abu baniaz]

I'll stick with the older files, not perfect but a whole lot better than the new versions.

Doesn't anyone else get the messed up main (HD) bouquet when using VM only.

Not a problem here

 

[Huevos]

Not a problem here

Thanks for the screenshots.

I'm lost. Are we discussing:

Swap for Sky UK
Swap for Virgin UK
Only swapping for ITV HD channels if there is a local HD service for Sky UK
Only swapping for BBC HD channels if there is a local HD service for Sky UK
Only swapping for ITV HD channels if there is a local HD service for Virgin
Only swapping for BBC HD channels if there is a local HD service for Virgin
HD on top for SD Sky regions
HD on top for HD Sky regions
HD on top for Virgin regions
None of the above
All of the above

We seem to discussing it all, and in an incoherent way that has made this thread very confusing.

For the purpose of this thread we can leave the channelsontop discussion behind as Dave's and your screenshots show the channels are in the correct order in the HD bouquets. The only explanation for lincsat not having the same order as you and Dave is that he is not using the same files.

Only swapping for ITV HD channels if there is a local HD service for Sky UK
Only swapping for BBC HD channels if there is a local HD service for Sky UK
Only swapping for ITV HD channels if there is a local HD service for Virgin
Only swapping for BBC HD channels if there is a local HD service for Virgin

This has never been the ABM swap behaviour... but for those that want it we could make a CustomMix file. This would avoid making a dirty workaround in what is currently very clean, non-provider-specific code in bouquetwriter.py.

 

[Huevos]

Here is a CustomMix file that stops non-simulcast ITV and BBC channels from promoting. Should work for all regions.

/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/custom/sat_282_sky_uk_CustomMix.xml

 

[lincsat]

Just reloaded the latest ABM files from the Git and tried this custommix file. full log from starting the ABM scan is attached, traceback below

< 87756.843> Traceback (most recent call last):
< 87756.843>   File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/scanner/main.py", line 517, in doBuildIndex
< 87756.845>     self.manager.save(self.providers, self.dependents)
< 87756.846>   File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/scanner/manager.py", line 151, in save
< 87756.846>     services, providers[provider_key]["sections"] = Tools().customMix(self.services, provider_key, providers, self.providerConfigs[provider_key])
< 87756.847>   File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/scanner/tools.py", line 221, in customMix
< 87756.848>     exec(hacks)
< 87756.848>   File "<string>", line 6, in <module>
< 87756.852> KeyError: 0
< 87756.852> [ePyObject] (CallObject(<bound method AutoBouquetsMaker.doBuildIndex of <class 'Plugins.SystemPlugins.AutoBouquetsMaker.scanner.main.AutoBouquetsMaker'>>,()) failed)

 

[Huevos]

@Linksat, I can't replicate your crash. All I can think is you are not using the same files as everyone else.

Please look at the screenshots here: ABM hacks examples.

 

[lincsat]

I downloaded from the Git, deleted all the pyo files and copied the .py files to the box and rebooted to compile the new pyo. I'm downloading from here

https://github.com/oe-alliance/AutoBouquetsMaker

Tried it twice now, don't know what's going wrong so given up and gone back to old version.

 

[dsayers]

Delete ABM folder and uninstall then install IPK from here https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?56797-ABM-standlalone-installation

 

[abu baniaz]

No crash for me either.

 

[bbbuk]

Delete ABM folder and uninstall then install IPK from here https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?56797-ABM-standlalone-installation

In addition to this, does issue happen if you don't use any custom type .xml at all?

 

[sparkhead]

Hi all
Firstly, I have a miraclebox premium twin+ plus, openVix, 5.1.027 firmware on virgin. Northwest Eng

Last year virgin moved E4 from channel 144 to 106 but when I swap HD channels E4 stays at 106 and E4HD stays at 145, I think all other HD channels swap. 101 -109 definitely do apart from 106
I know its on a small thing but would be nice to see change over.
Hope this is the right place to post this ?

Thanks

 

[lincsat]

I downloaded from the Git, deleted all the pyo files and copied the .py files to the box and rebooted to compile the new pyo. I'm downloading from here

https://github.com/oe-alliance/AutoBouquetsMaker

Tried it twice now, don't know what's going wrong so given up and gone back to old version.

Now tried on an unsupported ZGemma box and it works perfectly on that, so looks like the Vu+ solo2 wasn't compiling the Python files properly. I can confirm the no swap hack works OK in both the Humber and E. Mids regions.