Some ideas to improve the Graphical EPG screen

[bbbuk]

@Matt007, would you be able, in the short term and as a workaround, implement a conditional statement in your code so if "All channels" bouquet exists it then displays the correct official numbering (as taken from "all channels") within the G-EPG before the channel name (eg "101 BBC One").

If "All channels" doesn't exist, it just displays the usual "BBC One". I'm not sure if you can accurately check if "All Channels" bouquet exists?

This way, there is no error message/crash and for those with "all channels" can have official channel numbers displayed in G-EPG.

 

[matt007]

If someone has multiple providers and a main bouquet for each, then they will have more than one "All Channels" bouquet so things can get messy in that regard. I will have a think about what would be suitable

 

[matt007]

Also, people have the ability to rename their bouquets so simply checking for the "All Channels" name is not enough as people have the ability to name it however they want.

Also I think there is already a bouquet config where the channel number is appended to the name. So for visual purposes, a consistent number is shown. This will achieve the same effect.

EDIT: it is Lraizer's AB 28.2.

 

[bbbuk]

...Also I think there is already a bouquet config where the channel number is appended to the name. So for visual purposes, a consistent number is shown. This will achieve the same effect.

EDIT: it is Lraizer's AB 28.2.

Thanks for that.

I now have official channel numbers. Just a small gripe over fact it still displays the accumulative channel number as well as official channel number but at least it's closer to what I wanted.

I noticed it credits Andy and Vix so hopefully sometime in future this can be added to Vix's built-in ABM ?

 

[abu baniaz]

There have been quite a few errors in assupmptions/deductions in last few posts.

 

[bbbuk]

There have been quite a few errors in assupmptions/deductions in last few posts.

Could you go into a little more detail?

Would be best if the last few pages of post that are referring to channel numbers in ABM be split off into a new thread to keep this original thread more on-topic

 

[markus625]

Thought id have a stab at incorporating this into rossi's bello skin, as you can see from the screenshot the options is totally wrong am i missing something that i need to code into the skin.

 

[bbbuk]

I'm not as good as coding as the rest of you (learning slowly) but am I correct in the thinking it's either "OptionDialog" or "ChoiceBox"? My guess is "OptionDialog" is the properties for the box!

I've tried the default installation skin, and red button options displays ok but could do with tidying up a little compared to blue-hd version.

The bello skin, however, doesn't display anywhere close to correct so I assume that needs extra coding for the fact it's 1080p skin.

I'm sure Rossi or matt could help you more...

 

[rossi2000]

we are still deciding on how/what to implement into vix,
if/when this happens i will update the skins to reflect the changes.

 

[Huevos]

In an ideal world we could have "All Channels" and each section, all with correct official numbering

Enigma 3? Or completely rewrite Enigma 2? :roflmao:

 

[bbbuk]

Enigma 3? Or completely rewrite Enigma 2? :roflmao:

A workaround of some sort has been done as I have it working now with AB 28.2 plugin plus Matt007 had it working as well using built-in ABM instead of plugin I've had to use.

It does, however, rely on main bouquet (ie "all channels") but it's a step in right direction

 

[abu baniaz]

A workaround of some sort has been done as I have it working now with AB 28.2 plugin plus Matt007 had it working as well using built-in ABM instead of plugin I've had to use.

It does, however, rely on main bouquet (ie "all channels") but it's a step in right direction

It does not.

Both ABM and AB 28.2 will create channel lists where button pushes correspond to official channel number. Irrespective of whether you have the large main bouquet or not.

If you do not have the large main bouquet, the "displayed channel" numbers in the not-main bouquets will still correspond to "button push" numbers.

You can also have channel numbers taht correspond to official numbering without having the bouquets.

Note: Button push number = E2 number

 

[bbbuk]

Both ABM and AB 28.2 will create channel lists where button pushes correspond to official channel number. Irrespective of whether you have the large main bouquet or not.

If you do not have the large main bouquet, the "displayed channel" numbers in the not-main bouquets will still correspond to "button push" numbers.

You can also have channel numbers taht correspond to official numbering without having the bouquets.

Note: Button push number = E2 number

So why can't we have E2 number (ie corresponds to official numbering) in sectional bouquet as well as any "main" bouquet displayed within EPG? Is it because you can't have same channel (including official numbering) in both "main" bouquet as well as any sectional bouquet?

 

[abu baniaz]

E2 number is not offical number. Plugins like ABM/AB 28.2 and B16mcc online tool creates blank channels to achieve this.

So why can't we have E2 number (ie corresponds to official numbering) in sectional bouquet as well as any "main" bouquet displayed within EPG? Is it because you can't have same channel (including official numbering) in both "main" bouquet as well as any sectional bouquet?

Answer has already been given.

 

[judge]

Number button presses already have assigned functions while in G-EPG, not sure removing those is the best of ideas.

 

[bbbuk]

Number button presses already have assigned functions while in G-EPG, not sure removing those is the best of ideas.

Are you referring to jump to channel whilst within the G-EPG that Matt007 thought of? I didn't realise number button presses whilst actually viewing the G-EPG did anything tbh.

If you're referring to number button presses displayed in G-EPG that I mentioned, I was just hoping that the official channel number could be displayed whilst viewing G-EPG, instead of the cumulative number which is sometimes displayed. For example, I have "all channels" and sectional bouquets enabled. Whilst viewing any channel from the main "all channels" bouquet the official channel number is shown. Whereas, jumping straight to "movies" bouquet instead displays a cumulative number (ie channel number 1000 onwards) rather than official channel number (ie 301 onwards).

I've been informed this isn't possible without re-writing ABM from what I can gather from Huevos and Abu.

Instead, I use the AB E2 28.2 plugin to generate bouquets and allow displaying of official channel number whilst viewing G-EPG.

 

[markus625]

I think we need to look at all the possible button actions that we have access too while in the g-epg such as pressing some of the number keys will + and - zoom the epg guide or go straight to primetime etc.

Could these functions be moved to a pop up menu to access these leaving the number keys to jump to a channel in the epg.

For example.

Red button = options :
1.imdb
2.tmdb
3.tvdb
4.jump to primetime
5. Zoom +
6. Zoom -
7. Plus 24h
8. Bouquets

Green button = add timer
Yellow button = add autotimer
Blue button = recordings/pvr

 

[bbbuk]

I think we need to look at all the possible button actions that we have access too while in the g-epg such as pressing some of the number keys will + and - zoom the epg guide or go straight to primetime etc.

Could these functions be moved to a pop up menu to access these leaving the number keys to jump to a channel in the epg.

For example.

Red button = options :
1.imdb
2.tmdb
3.tvdb
4.jump to primetime
5. Zoom +
6. Zoom -
7. Plus 24h
8. Bouquets

Green button = add timer
Yellow button = add autotimer
Blue button = recordings/pvr

This is where I personally agree with Matt007. The record button displays both timer and autotimer so why have it again via two coloured buttons from EPG when these two buttons could be used for something else?

Logically, well in my eyes anyhow lol, it makes sense to have +24h and -24h readily accessible from coloured button where everyone can see it and allows easy back/forth through the days and allows channel up/down to jump up/down through the epg listings.

The problem is everyone may have their own thoughts and preferences so I guess it's trying to find a happy medium.

I could do a poll and ask for opinions on whether to keep it as is, adopt matt007 version (as it stands now) or some variation of matt007 version?

 

[rossi2000]

+-24 can be already be used with the chan up/down buttons

 

[markus625]

I think a poll would be a good idea, I think we all have different ideas and needs.