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Problem with Duo and motorised dish (dish not tuning to satellites)
Rob van der Does
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Ahhh, it's a positioner, not a motor! AFAIK they are not USALS-compatible, so you will have to go for the manual store function.
Rob I would like to suggest making a sticky post about positioner setups for enigma2 based receiver, I've found here and there scattered infos and thought that the problem might be the actuator 
I think that stickying the instructions or both USALS and not USALS settings and why to choose on rather than the other may help in a quicker way.
I think that stickying the instructions or both USALS and not USALS settings and why to choose on rather than the other may help in a quicker way.
To use an actuator you need to use a positioner box like the V-Box.
If you have an actuator you have to do "advanced" and save all your positions manually. On my 150cm dish I'm using an actuator and setting the 58 positions I have stored took a few hours every evening for quite a few days.
BTW: I recommend that if you have more than a handful of satellites you make a spread sheet and save all your positions and counts to save yourself a bunch of work should something go wrong in the future.
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mapex
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Mines is doing the exact same thing , vuduo, motorised, penta dish......new tm motor....never did it with the last vix image but driving me nuts. I know how to set up advanced and it wont move, it moves in sat finder and got to 0 so if i try storing the sats non usuals it will fix it. Thinking new image to try it...
Rob van der Does
ViX Beta Tester
No use trying new image: no changes in that area.
As in satfinder the motor moves, it looks like your problem is down to settings.
Don't forget to give each satellite a unique LNB-number, and to store the position of that satellite in positiner setup using a unique position number.
So it's down to each satellite to be assigned to a LNB number, and each LNB number to be assigned it's own position number.
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Sorry to contradict but that is not correct information. The LNB number belongs to the LNB and the position number belongs to the satellite. If you are using 1 LNB for 5 satellites you use just 1 LNB number. The LNB number controls everything to address a single LNB, i.e. DiSEqC 1.0/1.1/1.2 etc. The LNB number does know if an LNB is motorised but does not control the position of the dish. On my 150cm motorised dish I've got 3 LNBs, (1 for Ku, 1 for C-band circular, and 1 for C-band linear). The setup of that is 3 unique LNB numbers, and 58 positions, plus 16 more unique LNBs for my fixed dishes that are also attached to that same tuner. If I assigned a unique LNB number per satellite this setup would not be possible as there is a maximum limit in E2 of 32 LNB numbers per tuner.
You can also have a hybrid of DiSEqC 1.2 and USALS on the same LNB number, which is useful if you ever want to go past the 60º USALS limit.
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Rob van der Does
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No, please don't feel sorry, I'm glad with every help to get things clear.
Would you be so kind to have a look at the attached how-to and to correct it were needed?
Would you be so kind to have a look at the attached how-to and to correct it were needed?
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mapex
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So we dont change the lnb number....is it the store position nimber..so lnb 1 stored position 1 , lnb 2 stored position 2...all the way through.... or lnb 1 and just change stored position...
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Conaxthewarrior
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Thought that a mis-alignment was the probable cause as this has happened to me before. Stormy winds blowing on my 110cm dish would actually turn the parabol from true a few mm on the motor axel or even move the parabol and motor as one on the main support fixing. I found that by a) zeroing the motor (that is, the center mark on the motor axel lines up exactly with the 0 degrees mark on the motor casing) then b) aligning the dish exactly with this zero indicator (lnb directly in line to the zero mark) and finally c) pointing the motor (with dish tightly fixed) to south as a zero reference point of sky - would have all satellites back again using usals. Checking the support fixing is still perpendicular is also a good check, if it’s not bolted down on a wall or such.
The dish being knocked off line a few mm would mean some satellites are there while many are not. The traversed rainbow arc the dish would make wouldn’t line up with the rainbow of satellites across the sky all the time, I found the satellites at the end of the rainbow were typically the ones missing (for me 15w and 28e) while 19e and 13e were there but with a weak signal strength,
The dish being knocked off line a few mm would mean some satellites are there while many are not. The traversed rainbow arc the dish would make wouldn’t line up with the rainbow of satellites across the sky all the time, I found the satellites at the end of the rainbow were typically the ones missing (for me 15w and 28e) while 19e and 13e were there but with a weak signal strength,
If it is the same LNB use the same LNB number and just change the position number.
Rob, it will work like that, but it is not the correct way to do it. And also if you do it like that once you get to 32 satellites you will run out of LNB numbers. So it is wrong in step 5. Just stick to one LNB number per LNB, and only change the position number.
Imagine you have Astra 1, Hotbird and Astra 2 on fixed dishes plus a motorised dish all connected together by a 4/1 switch. That's 4 LNBs in total so you uses 4 LNB numbers, even though it can receive from a lot more than 4 satellites.
I'm posting a couple of images of my tuner setup for 58W and 55W. Both use the same LNB. Note the only thing that changes between the two is the position number, but not the LNB number.
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Agreed, I have 39 satellites stored on lnb 1 and it works perfectly.
Rob van der Does
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Thanks for that: I'll adapt my how-to.
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mapex
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Store em all n lnb1 change stored on diff stored positions, do u need to do that signal lock part..with the stoed part on that word doc...the dish aint movin so if u go to the lock signal part how do u know ur lockin on 28e....nudge west or south as said how do u know what sat ur on..dunno id u can understand what im saying..writing this under a.table on me fone.....at work..you all do great job thanks
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mapex
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I've taken note of those settings and will try them later...thanks again...man this
is a long winded way my old TM5400 and my dm500hd were straight forward setting
up a motorised dish
is a long winded way my old TM5400 and my dm500hd were straight forward setting
up a motorised dish
Rob van der Does
ViX Beta Tester
I don't know if it's my poor knowledge of the noble English language or your under-the-table-writing, but I really don't understand a word of what you are saying.
What we are talking about in this thread is setting up a V-box and actuator to position the dish using DiSEqC 1.2 commands. Setting up a DM500HD is exactly the same as a Vu+ as it is also an E2 receiver, so if you think this is long winded you must be using a USALS motor and none of the stuff talked about in this thread applies to you.
Also, please can you post in proper English with punctuation so what you are saying is understandable for everyone.
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