[TM-TWIN-OE] New ViX Team Technomate TM-TWIN-OE ViX OE3.0 Release Discussion

[Larry-G]

activating HDMI CEC on the Twin seems have given mine the kick it needs, although it is worth pointing out that none of my other boxes need this setting activated, i'll keep a eye on it and report back.

update:.

It would seem that activating HDMI CEC has not resolved my issue as it's still happening and only on this receiver.

 

[dunk1964]

working fine but how do you install or down load ccc+m into softcam ?

 

[abu baniaz]

Vix images do not have softcams installed. You have to install them manually.

See this post http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?21009-Softcam-issues&p=155597&viewfull=1#post155597

http://www.4shared.com/dir/wnyHV50A/VIX_CAMS.html

 

[andyblac]

i don't have a splitter, but do use a ATEN 8 port switch, (8 device to one tv), and have no issues, when i change devices and back

 

[CG121]

It's fine when you first switch it on and suspect the the same if one's display remains on the same HDMI input.

When I switch inputs to DVI on my screen and then switch back, there is no picture even though the correct port is selected on the switch. If I switch ports on the switch and go back, it kicks back in. I hope CG121 can elaborate as he also confirmed the issue on his TV. (I am using a monitor.)

I've discussed the output problems with the TM boxes (and probably many others) to death and been slagged off for voicing this opinion, so I'm resigned to the fact that it appears nobody will resolve it as nobody seems to care whether the outputs do what they should or not..

One of the selling points of this box is all the outputs, so I thought at least they should've worked..

It seems 99% of beta testers use a 1 hdmi cable to 1 tv setup and that's that..

Current Bugs:
HDMI mode is unable to handshake with a TV on the fly via an HDMI switch, usually results in no (or a pink) screen..
[work around]place twin into standby, switch hdmi source and activate new source. (& vice versa)
Many are left having to recycle the power on the TV to clear down the problem caused by an invalid handshake (when the TV uses the data for a sky box to liase with the twin for example when both are left on..)

A recent test with the SkyHD box displayed a brief pink screen (HDCP error) switching from the twin but it is cleared as the box renegotiates with the TV.

RGB scart output is not standard. "RGsB s" is currently in use [sync on green] which causes many modern screens to display a green picture in RGB mode. The RGB standard for Europe is "RGB s".

When intially setting scart as an option, changing the format to RGB at the same time has no effect (remains CVBS). You have to save/exit and return to the menu to change the format (which then results in a green screen for me due to the oversight outlined above)

Scart Auto Aspect Switching doesn't work. Pin8 voltage is a permanent 12V (or 4:3) regardless of content aspect.
[forcing the aspect to 4:3 or 16:9 does change pin8 between 12 and 6 volts, so that works, but forget auto mode..]

Illogical Menu Option: If Scart aspect is set to 16:9 (pin8 = 6V) why offer "WSS on 4:3" as an option, it's pointless as the aspect is set at 16:9 (6v on pin8)

HDMI mode forces scart RGB back to CVBS mode.

It seems this box (and probably many others) are unable to allow simultaneous outputs..
For example, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a TV connected via HDMI 1080i and a multiroom/DVDr via Scart RGB..I won't mention the component outputs as that too demonstrates the same poor control..

I appreciate this is most probably a driver/hardware issue that will never be resolved and as far as I'm concerned now I'm more than happy that they've finally managed to get pin8 to 0V when in standby...
Finally my TV switching no longer sees the twin on 24/7 so I'm a happy camper at least there

If you manage to sort the disaster that is the outputs, great, I no longer care now as I simply modified the macros I use on my touchscreen remote [to switch between viewing modes] to cater for the twins retarded outputs.

Many thanks for the latest image, a real improvement on the shite we've seen from TM for years.

 

[Rob van der Does]

It seems this box (and probably many others) are unable to allow simultaneous outputs..
For example, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a TV connected via HDMI 1080i and a multiroom/DVDr via Scart RGB..I won't mention the component outputs as that too demonstrates the same poor control.

Can't say for the TM but the VU boxes do support simultaneous outputs.

Edit: We are currently looking into this and any issues found will be reported to TM. Video-output is indeed governed by the drivers, so if there are issues TM will have to fix them.

 

[Larry-G]

Can't say for the TM but the VU boxes do support simultaneous outputs.

Agreed and While I have not tested this on the twin yet. I have on many occasions had one of my vu receivers looked up to two different screens at the same time, via scart and HDMI Which works great.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Larry-G]

It seems this box (and probably many others) are unable to allow simultaneous outputs..
For example, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a TV connected via HDMI 1080i and a multiroom/DVDr via Scart RGB..I won't mention the component outputs as that too demonstrates the same poor control.

ok just got home and dug out a scart cable.

I have Two TV's side by side, hooked up to the Twin one via the HDMI port @ 1080i and the other via the Scart port, Both ports are outputting video just fine to both TV's.

 

[CG121]

ok just got home and dug out a scart cable.

I have Two TV's side by side, hooked up to the Twin one via the HDMI port @ 1080i and the other via the Scart port, Both ports are outputting video just fine to both TV's.

I didn't say it doesn't output video, I said it doesn't output RGB video while outputting HDMI...

 

[Sicilian]

I didn't say it doesn't output video, I said it doesn't output RGB video while outputting HDMI...

Dont take this 100%, but got a feeling this maybe a charactaristic of E2, I setup a Uno the weekend, remember seeing the samething, but will need to check again.

The HDMI hub/switch issue has been reported and I'll be pushing for a fix

 

[Rob van der Does]

Dont take this 100%, but got a feeling this maybe a charactaristic of E2, I setup a Uno the weekend, remember seeing the samething, but will need to check again.

No, it's driver related: the plugin 'video mode' can only do what the drivers support.
The VU's output RGB while at the same time outputting HDMI.
Only thing is: the VU's have the component connectors hard-wired to the scart-RGB pins. That means that Component & Scrat-RGB don't go together, as setting one is setting the other. No idea if that's the case with TM as well.

 

[Sicilian]

No, it's driver related: the plugin 'video mode' can only do what the drivers support.
The VU's output RGB while at the same time outputting HDMI.
Only thing is: the VU's have the component connectors hard-wired to the scart-RGB pins. That means that Component & Scrat-RGB don't go together, as setting one is setting the other. No idea if that's the case with TM as well.

I setup a VU+ Uno the weekend using both scart and HMDI outputs, sure it switched itself to CVBS, will need to check though.

 

[Rob van der Does]

I setup a VU+ Uno the weekend using both scart and HMDI outputs, sure it switched itself to CVBS, will need to check though.

Make sure to set Scart to RGB. If it's true what you say, VU+ has re-introduced a very old bug.

 

[Sicilian]

Make sure to set Scart to RGB. If it's true what you say, VU+ has re-introduced a very old bug.

Yes will do, will be the weekend, not got it here.

 

[CG121]

Yes I think you're correct..

I know the pin8 thing is down to the drivers as it now works (for manual aspect control and standby etc)..

Without auto aspect control we can't verify wss on pin8, but as the drivers control the voltage when manually selecting 4:3 or 16:9, wss should work..

TBH, most channels are 16:9 now so forcing the aspect to 16:9 (pin8 correctly = 6volts) is a decent enough work around in case the work required to resolve it isn't realistically viable..[or breaks the currently correct pin8 functions lol]

As it stands now, I think anyone using the scart would just be happy to resolve the RGB problems..

I cannot use RGB as my screen is green due to the incorrect presence of sync on the green channel, but again this doesn't affect all chipsets in tvs.. [which is why some will report RGB is fine]
Regardless of this though, the RGB output while using 1080i would be a nice touch if they can sort it

Cheers

 

[abu baniaz]

I tried to follow this thread http://www.world-of-satellite.com/s...erised-dish&highlight=motorised+diseqc+switch to setup a diseqc switch and motor on one input.

Issue is that when I press the green button to save, I get the prompt "really close without saving settings?" It seems I cannot save and then exit.

EDIT: Pressing OK twice quickly saves and closes.

 

[Rob van der Does]

But this brings up the question why you don't use USALS.

 

[abu baniaz]

I am using USALS, but trying to combine with other LNBs just as you have done in the other thread.

The point is that the "save" button is not saving. Please check to confirm if you have a TM Twin.

 

[Rob van der Does]

When using USALS you can't save positions (as there's nothing to save, as USALS calculates positions itself).

 

[abu baniaz]

If you change to simple configuration, and single LNB and then press "green" which is the save button, you still get the "really close without saving settings?" prompt. Even selecting not configured does the same. As posted before pressing OK twice saves and closes and in this scenario asks me if I want to delete the non configured sats.

I had asked what is the difference in positions in terms of diseqc switch, not motor positions. The listed diseqc commands are AA,AB,BA,BB, and Input 1 upto Input 16.
As it happens, I have got the switch/motor to wok to a degree. I just can't get the HD channels to work using the 28.2 fixed sat. HD channels using the same switch on the motor work.