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the tension is killing me

And what manufacturing of note is done there, as that was your justification for having no public sector.
It's not manufacturing but bringing money into the country from outside that's important. Manufacturing is one means to do that, whereas the public sector is not. On the manufacturing front look at Hong Kong. Minute public sector, 100% literacy, 100% employment, no VAT, no income tax, a median household income of $17,000 per month, and infant mortality 1/3 the rate of the UK.
 
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Guys just a pointer this is first going off subject and getting political and the rules state no political talk

Thanks
 
The off thread issues, within this thread, are very interesting, and perhaps need moving to a rant room or general chat, I have views on these comments, as others have, but in the sat world, most of us here are lucky to have the VU+, and great surport as well, so please, keep to the main subject folks

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here's a thought to all our irish friends. many will be aware that water meters will be put into all homes in the very near future. now we all know our country is shagged. but to add to the misery i can assure that we will buy in all these meters from abroad. so get out there and say NO. we want to at least be allowed to manufacture such products.
 
I agree Sic but who will bail out this one ?

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could explain why there might be some politicians who are somewhat sceptical of loaning us irish a few bob (rather a lot of bobs in fact). its a strange and murky world where everybody seems to be totally broke but nobody has a problem giving a loan even in such circumstances. god bless the wild and wacky world of economic sense. it used to be you were broke, you shut up shop, and weathered it. today if your broke you just continue giving people money even if you don't have it.

sicilian, i take your point. andy is getting a breather. andy, just let us know if you need another economic crisis to distract folks (having said that the current one would be hard to top) :-)
 
a strange and murky world where everybody seems to be totally broke but nobody has a problem giving a loan even in such circumstances. god bless the wild and wacky world of economic sense. it used to be you were broke, you shut up shop, and weathered it. today if your broke you just continue giving people money even if you don't have it.

lol that's what I still cant get my head around with regards to the banks. It seems they are all lending to each other and all defaulting on each others loans. bank A lends to bank B, C and D, bank B lends to A, C and D etc etc etc

Bank A says they cant give out mortgages because banks B, C and D wont lend them the cash, bank B says they cant because bank A, C and D wont lend them the money etc etc etc and the more I think about it the more I think absolutely nothing adds up.
 
nothing adds up in the banking world unless its the bank manager doing his monthly time sheet :roflmao:
 
The one thing I dont understand is why dident ireland just call everybodys bluff and just go bankrupt. They are in the euro and would have been bailed out no matter the cost.
 
How a STIMULUS PACKAGE Works:

IT is a slow day in a dusty little Irish town. The rain is beating down and the streets are deserted.
Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
On this particular day a rich tourist is driving through the town, stops at the local hotel and lays a €100 note on the desk, telling the hotel owner he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one to spend the night.
The owner gives him some keys and, as soon as the visitor has walked upstairs, the hotelier grabs the €100 note and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the €100 note and runs down the street to repay his debt to the pig farmer.
The pig farmer takes the €100 note and heads off to pay his bill at the supplier of feed and fuel.
The guy at the Farmers' Co-op takes the €100 note and runs to pay his drinks bill at the pub.
The publican slips the money along to the local lady of the night drinking at the bar, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer him "services" on credit.
The hooker then rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill to the hotel owner with the €100 note. The hotel proprietor then places the €100 note back on the counter so the rich traveller will not suspect anything.
At that moment the traveller comes down the stairs, picks up the €100 note, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, pockets the money, and leaves town.
No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and looking to the future with a lot more optimism.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the stimulus package works.
 
How a STIMULUS PACKAGE Works:

IT is a slow day in a dusty little Irish town. The rain is beating down and the streets are deserted.
Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
On this particular day a rich tourist is driving through the town, stops at the local hotel and lays a €100 note on the desk, telling the hotel owner he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one to spend the night.
The owner gives him some keys and, as soon as the visitor has walked upstairs, the hotelier grabs the €100 note and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the €100 note and runs down the street to repay his debt to the pig farmer.
The pig farmer takes the €100 note and heads off to pay his bill at the supplier of feed and fuel.
The guy at the Farmers' Co-op takes the €100 note and runs to pay his drinks bill at the pub.
The publican slips the money along to the local lady of the night drinking at the bar, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer him "services" on credit.
The hooker then rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill to the hotel owner with the €100 note. The hotel proprietor then places the €100 note back on the counter so the rich traveller will not suspect anything.
At that moment the traveller comes down the stairs, picks up the €100 note, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, pockets the money, and leaves town.
No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and looking to the future with a lot more optimism.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the stimulus package works.


That's great only Ireland hasn't got a stimulus package!
We've been stuck with paying off private bank debt.
Growth forecast by criminal FF govt is 1.75%
EU growth forecast 0.9%
EU/IMF Interest rate 5.8%

A four-year old could work it out that eventually, Ireland will have to burn the senior bondholders and restructure (better word than default) on the bank debt (As will Portugal, Spain, Belgium, Italy etc)

Still, I live in hope that events will overtake our criminal govt and a proper EU mechanism to cope with the Eurozone crisis will come about.
Ireland hasn't signed anything yet!!

PS the tension is killing me...;-)
 
Wow I skipped to the end of this and it's all gone very High Brow.
 
yes this thread has vered off course a little

but its a goodthing as were not answering any release date questions
 
OK, i will try and get this back on topic!!!

The tension is killing me...........when will v1.8 be released???(i'm, skipping v1.3-1.7 etc LOL!)
 
Don't worry mate when you get back from the olympics in 2012 it should be ready for you

:lol3:
 

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