VU+ and Unicable LNB setup

[andy1249]

I have a VU+ Duo 4K SE running openvix.
It has twin FBC tuner module and a twin DVBT tuner

I have this LNB

IDLU-QUDL42-UNR2L-1PP

It has one Unicable output and two "legacy" outputs
It comes with a splitter.
I have one legacy output wired to the kitchen TV
The Unicable output is directly connected to the VU+ in the main sitting room.

The LNB has four user bands

0=1210mhz
1=1420mhz
2=1680mhz
3=2040mhz

Note, I'm new to unicable and FBC and am not sure what I'm doing.

After many many tries at setup , am I right in concluding that it is impossible to use all 8 FBC tuners on the VU+ because it only has four user bands.
Also , if I set up all four user bands on the VU+ , the legacy output stops working , it would seem I need to leave one user band free for a legacy output to work.
Is That correct?

If not , what is the best way to set up the tuners on the VU+ box.


I can replace the LNB with this one

IDLU-32UL42-UNB00-0PP

It has 32 user bands

What would be the best way to set up this in the openvix tuner menu.
I am assuming I can use the splitter I have to feed the kitchen TV from one of the many unused user bands left over?

 

[Ev0]

To use all 8 FBC tuners, you need a Unicable II lnb, with atleast 8 (most have 24 - 32) userbands.

You can also get a unicable II lnb with 24 userbands and 3 legacy (DUR-Line UK 124-3L for example).

 

[abu baniaz]

Also , if I set up all four user bands on the VU+ , the legacy output stops working , it would seem I need to leave one user band free for a legacy output to work.
Is That correct?

They should work independently. This may be a fault with the LNB.

I am assuming I can use the splitter I have to feed the kitchen TV from one of the many unused user bands left over?

Only if it supports unicable. Otherwise you must use the legacy output.

Another option is to to use a switch. Unitron dCSS-422 uses quattro LNBs,

Have a look in the unicable section of forum for other examples

 

[andy1249]

Yeah , thought that LNB was a bad buy , It does mention 4 feeds maximum , legacy or unicable or both , so the legacy connections do indeed cut out if you use all four user bands on the VU+

The kitchen TV works fine with a split off the Unicable , so must be compatible.
I will have the installer change it , hes already booked to fix the install as he told me that the legacy was separate and it is not.

I will switch out for the 32 band unicable II LNB listed in the first post. Should be fine then.
Thanks for the help.

 

[andy1249]

I switched out the LNB for this one

IDLU-32UL42-UNB00-0PP

I set up the LNB in the Openvix Tuner Page , Cable to Connector A ( Top one ) all other tuners set to Unicable LNB , LNB model number , and user bands 2 through 9 used for each tuner , 3 through 9 connected to A as recommended in the Unicable & FBC Sticky on here.

Strange problem , it didnt work , so used the command "cat /etc/enigma2/settings | grep config.Nims > /tmp/mytunerconfig.txt" to get the tunerconfig file , and it showed my old setup , not the new one.
I deleted the Settings file in Enigma2 and rebooted , ran the command again , and I still got the old setup , not the new one.

So I went into Tuner Settings again , this time I changed from Unicable/Jess LNB to Unicable/Jess User defined and entered the frequency for each user band in turn for each tuner.

Ran the tunerconfig command again , and this time it was correct. Everything works fine , tested 7 recordings whilst watching another channel , no issues , all recordings completed as they should , smooth operation.

Looks like Ive found a bug or something.
The Box was supplied from WOS with Openvix Virtuosso Image Xtreme 6.2.010 and its a VU+ Duo 4K SE

Anyways , its all working now , just thought that this was a very strange issue. Surely config should be updated every time you change tuners and save it ? Why did it insist on holding on to the old config when LNB & Model # was used and only updated when I set it to " User Defined " ?

Kitchen TV also working by the way , with the splitter supplied by inverto for the first LNB.

 

[Huevos]

The 6.2 image is several years old. Current image is 6.5.

 

[andy1249]

The box is less than a year old.
Why would WOS sell a box without the latest image on it ?

 

[Willo3092]

That image must be what it was shipped from the manufacrurer with.
WoS will flash the latest image for a quid when you place an order.

 

[abu baniaz]

An aside, it will take roughly 5 minutes to flash newer image, reboot, restore settings/plugins and reboot back to working state.

 

[andy1249]

Box was bought from WOS last May , and I asked for Openvix on it , chosen from a list in a drop down box when ordering. Im assuming 6.2 was not current last may , would have been some version of 6.4

Anyway , doesnt matter , turns out the box will download and flash the latest image and pull all your settings back into the new image in 5 minutes.

None of my cheaper previously owned boxes could do that without completely freezing up.
Happy days , on 6.5.001 now.

 

[Huevos]

Box was bought from WOS last May , and I asked for Openvix on it , chosen from a list in a drop down box when ordering. Im assuming 6.2 was not current last may , would have been some version of 6.4

Anyway , doesnt matter , turns out the box will download and flash the latest image and pull all your settings back into the new image in 5 minutes.

None of my cheaper previously owned boxes could do that without completely freezing up.
Happy days , on 6.5.001 now.

Yes, we've worked a lot to make the process easy for our users.