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IMDb broken (again)

Recently I found that a IMDb search for a film was not showing a cast list for any film.

Today a IMDb search is coming up with blank screens

Is this a change in the way IMDb is now presenting incompatible data that the plugin no longer recognises?
 

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Just tried TMDB - I likes it!!

In particular the details about the series (seasons) and the year of each. Also the BIO of the cast. Seems superior to IMDB. I wonder if it all goes bad as often when they change the API (as they seem to do on IMDB so often?
 
The thing is IMDB is an html scrape. TMDB plugin uses a real API. I was going to substitute IMDB with TMDB but the dev team didn't want that.
 
I would second your suggestion to replace it.
 
pololoko111 said:
Fixed
github.com

[imdb] Update search results · oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins@6d54271

The format of search results changed, remove the stars (and season/ episode numbers) and include the runtime and genres, along with however much of the plot fits in the status.
github.com github.com
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I had a crash with that:

< 76290.492293> 16:34:24.8937 [InfoBarGenerics] Key: 108 (Make) KeyID='KEY_DOWN' Binding='('DOWN',)'.
< 76290.492489> 16:34:24.8939 [ActionMap] Keymap 'DirectionActions' -> Action = 'down'.
< 76290.495139> 16:34:24.8965 Traceback (most recent call last):
< 76290.497889> 16:34:24.8993 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Components/MenuList.py", line 30, in selectionChanged
< 76290.497980> 16:34:24.8994 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/Extensions/IMDb/plugin.py", line 960, in searchPlot
self["statusbar"].setText(self["menu"].getCurrent()[2])
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^
< 76290.498114> 16:34:24.8995 IndexError: tuple index out of range
< 76290.498391> 16:34:24.8998 [ePyObject] (CallObject(<bound method MenuList.selectionChanged of <Components.MenuList.MenuList object at 0xa9ff43c8>>,()) failed)
 
spanner123 said:
Just checked tmdb out for myself and I agree!
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It doesn't seem to have any user reviews. Often these give much more of an insight to a film being worth watching, or more likely a film that I'm likely to avoid. The description of the film doesn't seem to be much more than the description that is broadcast on live TV.
 
adm said:
It doesn't seem to have any user reviews. Often these give much more of an insight to a film being worth watching, or more likely a film that I'm likely to avoid. The description of the film doesn't seem to be much more than the description that is broadcast on live TV.
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I hear what your saying but there is a score out of ten, although not sure if it uses the IMDB score, and it has a good cast list for quick reference.
Maybe there is a way of having both but don't know as i uninstalled IMDB first before installing TMDB.
 
Neither is perfect TBH but I just did a test and TMDB does have a score out of 10 like @spanner123 says. This is only for users who have an account on TMDB which I suspect, at this point in time, is much lower than the user base of IMDB and will always remain so. Shame IMDB doesn't have an API that is free to use. If you somehow combined the two then the issue of the IMDB falling apart every few months would remain I guess.

Where it excels in comparison to IMDB is the Cast info and also the seasons info.

As an example I took a recent drama on C5 called "Murder Before Evensong" which is a new show (1 season) and these were the reviews on the various sites:

TMDB 76% (7.6/10) based on 5 user ratings
Rotten Tomatoes Avg. Tomatometer 89% Based on Critic 9 ratings
IMDB 7/10 Based on 697 ratings

The IMDB rating (based on number of reviews) cleary has a major advanatage for the ratings piece.
For both RT and TMDB it could just be one or two super weirdo fans of a given show skewing the rating massively

For a much older and more established show (e.g. one on the list of all time great shows in its genre and no longer being produced but repeated on channels like Dave, Sky Arts, That's TV etc.) the picture is much the same. Take the 70's classic - Fawlty Towers for example:

TMDB 83% (7.6/10) based on 753 user ratings
Rotten Tomatoes Avg. Tomatometer 100% Based on Critic 14 ratings
IMDB 8.8/10 Based on 107000 ratings

If you don't care about reviews of others then TMDB may be a good choice for some (stability wise) but if you care about how popular a show is and the opinions of many many like minded people then IMDB wins hands down. I see that now.

I am guessing that Adoxa on Github has a hell of a lot of maintenance on the IMDB plugin to keep it working as I now appreciate how the IMDB py code has to work (screen scraper) and I am guessing that IMDB (aka Amazon) keep changing the webpage - Barstewards that they are! Keep up the good work Adoxa (Jason).

Just my "4 cents" as they say.

Paul
 
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I continue to use IMDB in preference to TMBD due to the more detailed film synopsis and user reviews. I agree that TMDB has much better cast info / biogs etc.
 
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