The OPs problem also seems to be that he isn't just looking that it will work but also work at the speed he is expecting - hence perhaps rejecting 45 minutes for a blindscan. Slower scans may be nothing to do with the tuner chipset itself but more to do how the manufacturer interfaces to that chipset and how the subsequent data from the chipset is processed. Slower interfacing to a chipset may prove to be more reliable. Again, knowing the capabilities of a tuner chip-set gives no information on how it may be incorporated into a piece of equipment, especially if the equipment is not designed for the US market. In one post he seems to be suggesting that a retailer loan him (via a UK proxy) a box with the full range of possible plug in tuners so that it can be tested - and then returned if it doesn't meet his requirements.
I'm not expecting fast blindscan results at all. I think really that knowing a pluggable tuner option has a recent chipset that is proven to receive and demodulate frequencies and symbol rates. In a signal finder or manual scan screen knowing the parameters from satellite charts and inserting them should show at least a signal.
I don't really think European satellites differ much if any from ones in the US. Because there are people here watching the same satellites that footprints cover over there also. Fast and thorough mean 2 different things to me. Even a good blindscan has skipped over transponders and you find those in charts to verify it.
Blindscan is not my concern really. It all comes down to if a tuner has dated electronics like the H7 has that will never be able to demodulate or even acknowledge a manually input frequency/sr., etc. Or as is the case with ACM/VCM goes completely blind.
El bandido has done fantastic work with the Mio receivers in his image. If he worked with Edision or Availink to get to that point. I'm not sure.
I do know that Edision sent me several tuner drivers at different times to evaluate. That has been mentioned. I reported back to them and sent logs.
To me that sounds like they really care. Whether they spoke with Availink is not known.
You know. These forums are filled with "what is the best receiver" and such.
Perhaps the VU+ line catches my eye because of the front panel and rear panel connection options.
Our main distributor here is a self proclaimed experimenter and has been helpful in phone conversations. He started to sell the Os Mio 4k+. His honesty in letting me know it didn't really do that much more than the Mio 4k and the second DVB tuner was limited in its capabilities shows he wasn't looking for a quick sale or a pile of returns when purchasers discovered the deficiencies. My H7 has dual tuners. And I used them. But blindscan and reception of certain transponders (of lack of) has put it on the shelf collecting dust. It is blind to our music channels (itc) but the Mio receives them brilliantly.
The retailer in question actually did not and could not answer my pre purchase questions at all. I asked a standing member in another forum who was in direct contact with the UK retailer. He had the opportunity to test and review the different receivers that were being sold.
He invited me to purchase an Ultimo and tuner package, and he would ship here so I could give it a go. If in a certain amount of time I decided it was not siutable for me, I could return it back to him. Of course shipping was on me. It was a nice gesture and he commented of interest in seeing how it worked here.
No. Not a full range of tuners. Just a DVB-S2X dual and perhaps a DVB-C/T2.
Your response was very nicely put by the way. Thank you.
