ViX 1.3 Why A New Version?

[satsatsat]

Yep I agree 100%

reading most peoples questions so far, they haven't been harrasing, just curious etc.

It's begining to feel like a us and them situation where should anyone dare ask a question, we have scorn poured on it by someone (usually with a blue name).

It was 13 days ago now I think that we were told "if all goes well we should be releasing load of updates online tomorrow". I had a few problems a couple of days ago and needed to reflash. I felt like asking a simple question "hi guys, any news on the update, need to reflash, but will hold off if it's iminent" but was scared (well scared is the wrong word but you know what I mean) to do so. That simply shouldn't be the case on the support forum. If people are hesitant about asking simple honest questions, then they will end up going to another forum.

I appreciate the hard work Andy does, I know exactly what people are talkng about when they say others give up due to constantly being hassled etc. But what we've seen on this forum doesn't even come close to that.

yep that my point....were not harrasing...we look up to these guys and so our questions are a real compliment to the boys....

 

[Larry-G]

Yep I agree 100%

reading most peoples questions so far, they haven't been harrasing, just curious etc.

It's begining to feel like a us and them situation where should anyone dare ask a question, we have scorn poured on it by someone (usually with a blue name).

It was 13 days ago now I think that we were told "if all goes well we should be releasing load of updates online tomorrow". I had a few problems a couple of days ago and needed to reflash. I felt like asking a simple question "hi guys, any news on the update, need to reflash, but will hold off if it's iminent" but was scared (well scared is the wrong word but you know what I mean) to do so. That simply shouldn't be the case on the support forum. If people are hesitant about asking simple honest questions, then they will end up going to another forum.

I appreciate the hard work Andy does, I know exactly what people are talkng about when they say others give up due to constantly being hassled etc. But what we've seen on this forum doesn't even come close to that.

i don't agree with that statement at all.

as it has been said countless times we will get the update as and when the people making it feel it is ready to be released, no sooner, and people demanding it will not make it get here any sooner as a result.

this forum like all forums is her for a purpose, that purpose being the sharing of knowledge and the betterment of the chosen subject within the confines of the group.
the problem as i see it is the total unwillingness of a small number of people to do things for them selves. i'm not thinking of just the topic in this particular thread but the forum as a whole.
simple things such as reading a few pages to find the answer you need come to mind. as for harassment. i have read this thread from start to Finnish and i have yet to see any example of harassment levied towards any member.

 

[Ojustaboo]

ithe problem as i see it is the total unwillingness of a small number of people to do things for them selves. i'm not thinking of just the topic in this particular thread but the forum as a whole.

Using that sort of thinking we could dispense with 97% of all internet forums relating to all subjects.

99% of any question asked in any forum by anyone has already been answered and could be found with a decent google search.

Someone knowledgeable in a particular area can usually google something and find the answer in seconds. While someone new, who doesn't know exactly what they are asking or looking for, could end up googling for hours for such an answer (or searching a forum) and it ends up a complete minefield for them, the alternative is for them to ask on a friendly forum and get a polite-full helpful answer.

I've worked in system management in Unix environments most of my life, one of the things we always tell trainee people is if they don't know, ask. Nothing worse than someone spending 2 hours searching for an answer when they could have asked someone and that person spend 20 secs telling them what they needed to know.

as for harassment. i have read this thread from start to Finnish and i have yet to see any example of harassment levied towards any member.

So why did satsatsat feel the need to write post no 99, or why did bob1 in post no 96 feel the need to say "Anyway thats my last word on the matter in fear of upsetting anyone else"
Or why did E2Royal feel the need in post 87 to say "I think the post by fintannl was very fair" etc etc etc

You might not see it but others are feeling it.

 

[andyblac]

ok, guy's lets all calm down and take a step back, this is starting go around in circles, no one is saying people can't ask questions, but it is just certain questions have been asked and answered lots of times, i for one am not bothered how many times someone asks when will it be ready, because the answer will be the same every-time ' when it is ' . so let me say this i have learned my lesson not to give any public updates at all, if it is going to get like this evertime. i was just trying to let people know that we where working hard trying fix and update the image, and to give a progress report. but after all this, i won't be doing that again. now lets drop the subject and move on. you will have it when it's ready .

Andy.