[ViX_Misc] Any guides on how to build your own VIX image

[bsod]

Hi,

I am not sure if this is the correct place to ask this. Apologies up front if it is not.

I have a DUO2 and I also have another Engigma2 based recorder that is pretty much local to Australia. It's from a Korean company called Beyonwiz, and it's called the T3. I've been told it's a derivative of a Venton Unibox HD. How much truth there is to that I do not know. The issue is that the local distributors have been modifying the firmware that much that most Enigma2 plugins simply crash now and we are completely reliant on them to fix it, but the seem to have their own agenda on how/when they address issues. So this has lead to a group on T3 owners wanting to do their own image. Some of the code shows signs they may have used OpenVIx as their source tree. So this got me and my friends wondering how hard is it to build a image based on an standard OpenVix sources.

I have gone over the forums on this board and could not find any information on how we would do this, so are their any guides on this?
We did find an OpenATV image for the T3, and it does work well, but their forums are mostly for non English speaking people and although they do have a English forum, it is not frequented that much.

So in short, are their any guides or could someone explain the steps needed to build an image based off OpenVix?

tia

Craig

 

[DaMacFunkin]

As I understand it vix and openatv are sown from the same seed so it should be possible, only thing is your box might be in the grey area of it being cloned hardware, and that might stop you getting any help on this forum.

 

[bsod]

Hi DaMacFunkin,

As far as I know it's not a clone, it is sold under it's own brand name, not masquerading as a VU+ or Dreambox. The Venton OpenVix firmware almost worked, the main issue with with the front panel, the firmware couldn't drive it. Somehow the OpenATV people managed to do it, but they may have worked out how to extract it from the firmware for the unit.

Well here's hoping someone with expertise in this area can offer some help. I run OpenVIX HD on my VU+ DUO2 and it would be wonderful to do the same on the T3.

Craig.

 

[Larry-G]

Looking at some of the specs and pics of this receiver I have a feeling it's a OEM version of the now discontinued Vu+Ultimo or if not it's almost certainly based on it.

 

[bsod]

Hi,

yes the specs do look very similar, as does the case. I'll give the Ultimo firmware a shot and see how it goes.

Craig

 

[Larry-G]

Hi,

yes the specs do look very similar, as does the case. I'll give the Ultimo firmware a shot and see how it goes.

Craig

Dont try loading images onto your receiver that were not built for it, you could very easily end up with a expensive paperweight. I cant help with building a image for your receiver as I am not a developer but hopefully some one else can.

 

[Larry-G]

p.s would you be so kind as to link me to the forum where these users you referenced in post one are based ? I am a bit of a forum whore and would like to read some more about this receiver and it's images etc.

Many thanks.

 

[Sicilian]

The Beyonwiz is another OEM of the Atemio Nemesis, Golden Interstar LX3 and Miraclebox Ultra (coming soon).

 

[Larry-G]

The Beyonwiz is another OEM of the Atemio Nemesis, Golden Interstar LX3 and Miraclebox Ultra (coming soon).

I thought it looked familiar, although I have only ever seen pictures of the LX3. Thanks for the confirmation Sic.

 

[bsod]

p.s would you be so kind as to link me to the forum where these users you referenced in post one are based ? I am a bit of a forum whore and would like to read some more about this receiver and it's images etc.

Many thanks.

Hi Pheonix,

The Beyonwiz user forums URL is http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/. I have a suspicion the forums are geo-locked so you may need to use a proxy of some sort. One of the OpenATV devs mentioned that to me.

Also, I suspect most of the users on the forum seem to be oblivious to the existence of other Enigma2 systems and potentially alternate firmware for the T3. Your presence may not be welcomed by some such as the Oz devs who from what I can tell aren't feeding back to the OE community. I suspect this because there have been a number of fixes done on the T3 firmware that don't seem to be making it back into the OE Alliance builds, whether that be OpenVIX, OpenVIXHD, OpenATV, and so on.

I am also pretty sure the T3 is based of the Unibox HD3. The specs match up and front and back panels look identical. From what we understand the VFD is not the same though which is why the Venton HD3 image doesn't work. Not sure how OpenATA managed to get a working image up, but this is something we would like to do ourselves based on OpenVIX. Some of the fixes done by the Oz devs have improved the stability of the box enormously, but seemingly at the expense of some plugin compatibility. EPGRefresh is a classic example, where pressing Yellow in the UI causes the eniga2 to crash. It doesn't on the T3 using OpenATV.

Anyway thanks for the replies. Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction to start our own attempts.

Regards,

Craig

 

[Larry-G]

Hi Pheonix,

The Beyonwiz user forums URL is http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/forum/. I have a suspicion the forums are geo-locked so you may need to use a proxy of some sort. One of the OpenATV devs mentioned that to me.

Also, I suspect most of the users on the forum seem to be oblivious to the existence of other Enigma2 systems and potentially alternate firmware for the T3. Your presence may not be welcomed by some such as the Oz devs who from what I can tell aren't feeding back to the OE community. I suspect this because there have been a number of fixes done on the T3 firmware that don't seem to be making it back into the OE Alliance builds, whether that be OpenVIX, OpenVIXHD, OpenATV, and so on.

I am also pretty sure the T3 is based of the Unibox HD3. The specs match up and front and back panels look identical. From what we understand the VFD is not the same though which is why the Venton HD3 image doesn't work. Not sure how OpenATA managed to get a working image up, but this is something we would like to do ourselves based on OpenVIX. Some of the fixes done by the Oz devs have improved the stability of the box enormously, but seemingly at the expense of some plugin compatibility. EPGRefresh is a classic example, where pressing Yellow in the UI causes the eniga2 to crash. It doesn't on the T3 using OpenATV.

Anyway thanks for the replies. Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction to start our own attempts.

Regards,

Craig

Thanks for the URL, I signed up there yesterday read a few posts and made a few of my own, only to come on this morning and see the message that I have been permanently IP banned from the forum. god only knows why as my half dozen or so posts were just helping users.

Unfortunately if they are not open to others offering assistance and helping out then there is little to nothing we can do bout it, I do get the feeling over there that they are selling these receivers and the OS as their own invention and they are purposely avoiding any reference to enigma2 for some strange reason, which for a supposedly opensource platform is just insane.

 

[bsod]

Ahh, well I am glad we (as in our little collective) aren't the only ones with this impression. I really can't understand their reasoning either, esp since they advertise the fact it's an open source system! This is the point of our frustration, hence the request on any info on how we can

1. Do our own builds
2. Submit any fixes back to the Open Alliance so all can benefit from then. Some of us have already started work on some Australian specific code and general optimisations.

It's a real pity because they have addressed a number of issues the current builds still suffer from, and I don't understand why they don't seem to be contributing back, esp since the GIT tree they have indicates it's sourced from OpenVIX. I also notice that on the T3 info screens there is no mention of OpenVIX at all, which is disappointing seeing it seems it is based off it and it is clear from this site that although you don't support all receivers and anyone is free to use your GIT tree, you do expect them to at least acknowledge the OS is based off OpenVIX, which they have not.

If you like we can see if we can get your account unblocked, a friend knows one of the moderators. PM me if you would like it unblocked and if your IP is static or not.

Regards,

Craig

 

[Larry-G]

Ahh, well I am glad we (as in our little collective) aren't the only ones with this impression. I really can't understand their reasoning either, esp since they advertise the fact it's an open source system! This is the point of our frustration, hence the request on any info on how we can

1. Do our own builds
2. Submit any fixes back to the Open Alliance so all can benefit from then. Some of us have already started work on some Australian specific code and general optimisations.

It's a real pity because they have addressed a number of issues the current builds still suffer from, and I don't understand why they don't seem to be contributing back, esp since the GIT tree they have indicates it's sourced from OpenVIX. I also notice that on the T3 info screens there is no mention of OpenVIX at all, which is disappointing seeing it seems it is based off it and it is clear from this site that although you don't support all receivers and anyone is free to use your GIT tree, you do expect them to at least acknowledge the OS is based off OpenVIX, which they have not.

If you like we can see if we can get your account unblocked, a friend knows one of the moderators. PM me if you would like it unblocked and if your IP is static or not.

Regards,

Craig

Well I am currently in discussion with one of the Admin staff over there to see if they can white list my IP address for access to their forum, I can still connect via my phone but thats a pain in the arse and I really cant be bothered to faff on with proxies just to access a forum that deals with "Open source" software which is for some insane reason GOE locked.

as for building your own ViX image, I really wish I could help you with that but it's not really my area of expertise so I cant really help. I did see a post over there saying they are releasing their "SDK" or as the rest of the world would call it the make file to allow users to build their own versions of the factory image they use.

 

[bsod]

Fully understand Pheonix. Thanks for your assistance anyway. Was much appreciated.

Craig

 

[Larry-G]

In theory it should be quite easy to support these receivers in the OE-Alliance as we already produce a image for the Xpeed LX3 which is basically the same receiver. I know the guys on the beyonwiz forum may not want to get involved with other third party images seeing as they are producing their own factory image but these are opensource enigma2 based images so those who know what they are doing (Sadly I am not one of them), should be able to guide you.

 

[Larry-G]

In theory it should be quite easy to support these receivers in the OE-Alliance as we already produce a image for the Xpeed LX3 which is basically the same receiver. I know the guys on the beyonwiz forum may not want to get involved with other third party images seeing as they are producing their own factory image but these are opensource enigma2 based images so those who know what they are doing (Sadly I am not one of them), should be able to guide you.

Also if you know what changes were made by ATV for these receivers it may be a way to get a ViX LX3 image running on it unofficially as ATV is built on the ViX Core so retains a greater deal of compatibility with us than we do with Pli for example.

 

[Larry-G]

Looking on the ATV download site, the Beyonwiz T3 is officially supported with nightly builds. so if you can setup a build environment it should not be too hard to build a ViX image (unofficially) as we all use the same OE core. sorry I cant really be of more help but I am more than a little out of my depth here on this.

 

[bsod]

Thanks Pheonix,

I'll get back in touch with the OpenATV person and see if they can assist. One thing I am slightly confused about is your reference to the Exspeed LX3. I just looked at the specs to that and they don't really match the T3 at all. The Venton HD3 is what we were told it was based off and it certainly matches that spec and looks wise. We have heard rumour of a T4 and the specs of the LX3 would seem more in line with the T4 (dual core 1.3Ghz), the t3 has dual core mips 400Mhz CPU. We also think your account on the BW forums is open again, so if you feel inclined give it a shot.

Once again, thanks for all your assistance.

Regards,

Craig

 

[IanSav]

Hi Larry-G,

Sorry for resurrecting such an old thread.

I am one of the developers for the Beyonwiz T Series (T2, T3 and T4). I have created the OverlayHD skin and contribute other fixes and enhancements to the build.

We are currently working on a new firmware update that is takes significant input from the OpenVIX upstream feed update. Up until this recent work I was unaware that so much code came from OpenVIX. I would like to know how to go about contributing some of my code changes (fixes and enhancements) directly to OpenVIX.

I would also like to know if there is any chance that OpenVIX might release and host Beyonwiz builds. Such builds would allow Beyonwiz users to experience OpenVIX directly.

I welcome any guidance and advice you or others may care to offer.

Regards,
Ian.

 

[IanSav]

Hi,

With regard to my request of OpenVIX images on Beyonwiz hardware, I should also add that without access to OpenVIX images on my Beyonwiz hardware I won't be able to properly test my code submissions. I should be able to work around this with a testing partner but direct testing would be better.

Regards,
Ian.