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Spot on, running opentatv5.3. took a while to set it up as any thing I found relating to this box was in a different language
 
Spot on, running opentatv5.3. took a while to set it up as any thing I found relating to this box was in a different language
My (German) wife always tells me that it helps to improve my German:)

If there is anything specific you have learnt, it might be worth documenting for everyone? :)
 
I've been brushing up on my German, driver fixes were sorted a while back and a XXXXXX image seems to have popped up, a German forums suggests it's unlikely we'll see FBC until Q2 2017 when the HD52 is supposed to be released, that kind of makes it a much better buy than the Solo2, but with no clear FBC module upgrade path then unfortunately it's not for me. Stock seems to have also made it to more resellers now from what I've seen, WoS have the other new Mut@nt boxes in but no mention of the HD51 last I looked.

Next box with ARM/FBC seems to be Gigablue In Nov.y
 
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New info: HD51 confirmed to be getting FBC plug in tuners in next few months - this has been confirmed by the distributor. Using the available information it looks as though VIX support will only happen when WoS sell the hardware, a new batch is due next month with much better distribution chanel availability.

Also noticed the mention of another VIX based image seems to have upset Sicilian, I wasn't aware mentioning a GPL based fork that wasn't OpenVix was likely to cause anyone to get up right, it seems to have been fine for other team images, just figured it may have helped someone out :)
 
Difference being this time round the FBC modules are going to be in the HD52 which is slated for Q2? next year if my new German friends are to be believed and it's been suggested they are going to be ready before that (which makes sense).
 
Also noticed the mention of another VIX based image seems to have upset Sicilian, I wasn't aware mentioning a GPL based fork that wasn't OpenVix was likely to cause anyone to get up right, it seems to have been fine for other team images, just figured it may have helped someone out :)

It's not the fork I have an issue with. The organisation in question has blatantly cloned OpenViX and used the ViX name for their own benefit. OpenViX has taken years or team work and development and bought massive changes and improvements to the Enigma 2 world, what exactly have these guys developed for e2?? Forking our e2 is one thing, but using our name and touting our image as their own is another!!

Other teams have used our e2 as a base, but have any of those used our name?
 
Does anyone know if the HD51 will support channels with hybrid log gamma (HLG) format HDR please? There are a couple of demo channels running this now

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Just noticed that with new bootloader the chip is being driven faster, so interesting :)
 
I'm looking forward to getting one of these. If its anything like my Mut@nt HD2400 I'll be very happy. [emoji4]


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Just found out that HLG should be supported and was in one of the recent driver updates (for OpenATV anyway):

Driver Update 18/08/2016

* Update to HDMI 2.0a
- HDR Metadata Extraction
- HDR pass-through
- HDR-HLG (Hrybrid-Log Gamma)
- SDR -> HDR conversion
* Add DTS Support
 
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am in for a new box and been holding off to see what the next generation boxes have to offer. The mutant 4k is appealing to me, only issue I have is the remote, not universal and cant use with tv. sick of having two many remotes around the room, always end up losing one and taking ages to find. in addition is there a real benefit to buying one, if we don't have 4k channels.
 
It's not the fork I have an issue with. The organisation in question has blatantly cloned OpenViX and used the ViX name for their own benefit. OpenViX has taken years or team work and development and bought massive changes and improvements to the Enigma 2 world, what exactly have these guys developed for e2?? Forking our e2 is one thing, but using our name and touting our image as their own is another!!

Other teams have used our e2 as a base, but have any of those used our name?

It's not that uncommon if forking an OS under a 'GPL like' licence to reference it's origin, NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD for example, though OS X/iOS don't reference BSD and neither did SunOS/NeXTSTEP or pfsense in the name. In the E2 landscape you see it as well, Black Hole, Black Pole, Open BH etc and that's before you get into who used what as the source for the work they release. Without registering ViX as a brand (and a certain stock exchange would probably have a few things to say) I don't personally see a massive issue, if you have the sense to flash a box, you have the sense to understand the difference between two names which both have VIX in them surely?

As to what they've done in a relatively short period of time vs what OpenVix has achieved in 6 years, the answer is likely to be comparatively little, but that 'little' seems to have been to open up support for boxes that ViX historically hasn't catered for, some for obvious reasons (Air Digital), others i've never fully understood the lack of love for eg WETEK as WoS is a UK distributor. In fairness the image could be garbage and the drivers awful, I simply don't know as I lack the hardware to test at present, I just thought it may help out VIX users who want to get hold of an HD51 now rather than wait for you to get sufficient stock to warrant pushing the hardware and VIX to launch an image the same day as stock goes live.
 
Without registering ViX as a brand (and a certain stock exchange would probably have a few things to say) I don't personally see a massive issue, if you have the sense to flash a box, you have the sense to understand the difference between two names which both have VIX in them surely?

As to what they've done in a relatively short period of time vs what OpenVix has achieved in 6 years, the answer is likely to be comparatively little, but that 'little' seems to have been to open up support for boxes that ViX historically hasn't catered for, some for obvious reasons

Without wishing to pick an argument, you only have to look at the level of questions on this forum and some of the responses to Q,s on ViX4 to realise that your 1st point is a little naive, No .... most people do not understand the difference and most debug logs I have seen imply its part of OpenViX .... that is fundamentally wrong. Looked at their Web site today and although there is a "support forum" it has no user posts.
It,s now even worse now that OpenViX version is 4.x!

Ref your 2nd point, there is a limit to how many receivers you can fully support (even Vu is a major headache (in my view from reading the threads). Wetek.... nice little box (I built my own ViX image with Dev support) but Wetek have now thrown that all away by dropping future E2 support for this and current new boxes, so OpenViX dev made the right decision:)

I understand where you are coming from, but you have to look at Dev priorities. I bought my Xtrend ET8500's in Germany (where I live) a good 6+ months before Xtrend were prepared to sell through retailers in the UK (I asked them, and their priorities were in the German speaking countries - a big market), so I built my own ViX image ... not expecting ViX to do,it for a box that they couldn,t sell or get their hands on.

HD51, an interesting receiver that was targeted initially here in Germany and OpenATV appear to get priority support to get their image working.
I am sure that when there is volume available in the UK, VIX will look at providing the necessary support but you only have look at the OpenATV site to see that this receiver is still a work in progress ...... although very interesting and looks positive.
 
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No argument here twol, i'll be honest I barely skimmed the other forum and I lack supported hardware so it's not much use to me at present - it was literally just a heads up for anyone who had purchased an HD51 and was waiting on VIX support as opposed to going to PLI/ATV. Ref the Wetek build it was your sig that sent me off in that direction and I spotted the post you made. WETEK being an OpenElec hardware partner have always interested me so it was on the 'toy' list, instead I went in another direction with the intention to use my Solo2 to feed Kodi boxes.
 
It's not that uncommon if forking an OS under a 'GPL like' licence to reference it's origin, NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD for example, though OS X/iOS don't reference BSD and neither did SunOS/NeXTSTEP or pfsense in the name. In the E2 landscape you see it as well, Black Hole, Black Pole, Open BH etc and that's before you get into who used what as the source for the work they release. Without registering ViX as a brand (and a certain stock exchange would probably have a few things to say) I don't personally see a massive issue, if you have the sense to flash a box, you have the sense to understand the difference between two names which both have VIX in them surely?

As to what they've done in a relatively short period of time vs what OpenVix has achieved in 6 years, the answer is likely to be comparatively little, but that 'little' seems to have been to open up support for boxes that ViX historically hasn't catered for, some for obvious reasons (Air Digital), others i've never fully understood the lack of love for eg WETEK as WoS is a UK distributor. In fairness the image could be garbage and the drivers awful, I simply don't know as I lack the hardware to test at present, I just thought it may help out VIX users who want to get hold of an HD51 now rather than wait for you to get sufficient stock to warrant pushing the hardware and VIX to launch an image the same day as stock goes live.

make no mistake these arse clowns are not making their image for the benefit for the community or even to bring ViX to receivers otherwise not supported by ViX.

These arse clowns are making their image for pure profit. They have a well known and well earned name for piss poor after sales support and robbing their customers once a sale has been made. Just try going on their forum to point out a bug in the image or report a problem with a receiver they sold and you will be banned for life.

The sole reason they put out their image with the ViX name is to coin in on customers who think they are buying a receiver that will receive full ViX support it's just that simple. These guys are scum and the lowest of the low, even lower than the fools touting that zgemma shite.
 
No argument here twol, i'll be honest I barely skimmed the other forum and I lack supported hardware so it's not much use to me at present - it was literally just a heads up for anyone who had purchased an HD51 and was waiting on VIX support as opposed to going to PLI/ATV. Ref the Wetek build it was your sig that sent me off in that direction and I spotted the post you made. WETEK being an OpenElec hardware partner have always interested me so it was on the 'toy' list, instead I went in another direction with the intention to use my Solo2 to feed Kodi boxes.

i have two wetek boxes and in my opinion there garbage. One with a satellite tuner was taken out of the box and put rite back in it again. The other with a terrestrial tuner has sat next to my Xbox one for over a year gathering dust. I even bought the E2 remote which has been used once. I'd rather use my fire tv boxes than a wetek every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
 
make no mistake these arse clowns are not making their image for the benefit for the community or even to bring ViX to receivers otherwise not supported by ViX.

These arse clowns are making their image for pure profit. They have a well known and well earned name for piss poor after sales support and robbing their customers once a sale has been made. Just try going on their forum to point out a bug in the image or report a problem with a receiver they sold and you will be banned for life.

The sole reason they put out their image with the ViX name is to coin in on customers who think they are buying a receiver that will receive full ViX support it's just that simple. These guys are scum and the lowest of the low, even lower than the fools touting that zgemma shite.

Wait... you hate something more than AirDigital products? ;) Joking asside I can't say one way or another what the image is like or the supplier, i've used neither - though after today that may change. I can't argue with the commercial link between image development and box sales - this forum proves that link is healthy and active.

i have two wetek boxes and in my opinion there garbage. One with a satellite tuner was taken out of the box and put rite back in it again. The other with a terrestrial tuner has sat next to my Xbox one for over a year gathering dust. I even bought the E2 remote which has been used once. I'd rather use my fire tv boxes than a wetek every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

I come from a cable background and have been a Kodi/OE fan for a long time, WETEK have a decent OE link, i'd have loved them to build on that, hence the 'toy' to play with outlook, i've since decided to go the other way, hence back to sat for the first time in a long time. My FTV4K is a great box, it's as snappy as the i3 NUC+SSD for general use and is now my go-to option for friends/family.

wow very nice thanks my friend

I did nothing other than moan on here and bug some old friends in Germany, they were good enough to get an answer for me on the critical question of FBC and a few other bits, I asked if I could re-post the FBC info and was told it was OK. A few other bits that were mentioned i've not said anything about as they're not relevant, but it looks like Mut@nt have a few tricks in development for the HD51, the overclocked boot loader being the first of 3 features that were mentioned. Thank Sicilian for ordering them :)
 
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