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[birdman]

Brilliant work Birdman .. very much appreciated ... I believe the AR plugin should be amended in the VIX/OBH GIT builds accordingly to adopt the new py file ... 0.29 onwards???

I've submitted a pull request.

https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/pull/157

 

[Rob van der Does]

I tested the file in the pull request, and it does indeed add the 720p option. Good.
But at the same time a lot of SD options have been lost, and that's not good. They had been added to the OE-A version (but IIRC not to the PLi version) to be able to playback SD 24/25/30 files (that will often be DVD-files) with the correct framerate. So that's not good.

 

[birdman]

...
But at the same time a lot of SD options have been lost, and that's not good.

I though I was only adding things, but I think I can see what has happened.

 

[birdman]

I though I was only adding things, but I think I can see what has happened.

Well, I thought I could, however....

I can still see the SD options in the menu. When you say "a lot of the SD options have been lost" do you mean that, say, 1080p25 no longer shows up as a option in the choices for an SD signal?

 

[Nitemare]

Well, I thought I could, however....

I can still see the SD options in the menu. When you say "a lot of the SD options have been lost" do you mean that, say, 1080p25 no longer shows up as a option in the choices for an SD signal?

Hi Birdman,
All I can say is that I'm very pleased with the situation I have now ... I take it then from comments made that having just 1080p as an option for SD channels isn't sufficient in that 1080p25 etc. is required too by users??

I agree whole heartily that the WHOLE AR plugin probably needs a total rebuild to meet all resolutions and possible TV/video playback combinations now available (i.e. 4K/HD etc ...?)

Once again thanks for work done so far ... its fixed my issue and going forward perhaps future enhancements can be made to make the AR more seamless within images???

:thumbsup:

 

[birdman]

I take it then from comments made that having just 1080p as an option for SD channels isn't sufficient in that 1080p25 etc. is required too by users??

I'm waiting for Rob to confirm that's what he means. I think that's a simple fix. Anything else would be a mystery (at the moment).

 

[Nitemare]

Cheers .. I'll watch what happens with interest ...

Thanks ..

 

[Rob van der Does]

Well, I thought I could, however....

I can still see the SD options in the menu. When you say "a lot of the SD options have been lost" do you mean that, say, 1080p25 no longer shows up as a option in the choices for an SD signal?

Yes: it's no longer possible to choose dedicated 24/25/30 outputs for SD (meant to match source & output).

 

[birdman]

I've added back the options (the section of code replaced omitted them, though they were still being set up).

View attachment AR-plugin.zip

Here's a pull request for that:

 https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/pull/158

 

[Nitemare]

Yes: it's no longer possible to choose dedicated 24/25/30 outputs for SD (meant to match source & output).

This gives more WEIGHT to a total rebuild/rethink of the AR plugin .. indeed if it were possible I think it would be advantageous if it wasn't just a "plugin" but actually part of the AV Settings Menu but i guess not all users would appreciate that???

Just my 2p's worth ... lol

Sorry I'm NOT talented enough to help with coding etc. (very envious of you guys that can) :thumbsup:

@Birdman ... that "NEW" py file you just uploaded works fine too and YES 1080p modes that Rob requested for SD are all back too ... Cheers

 

[Rob van der Does]

I've added back the options (the section of code replaced omitted them, though they were still being set up).

View attachment 52411

Here's a pull request for that:

 https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/pull/158

Glad to see that you continued working on it

Just tested that, which leads to the following questions:
1- There is no SD 24fps option. Not sure if it was there before (or that we need it at all)?
2- For 720p50 there is no option 720p50 (although for 720p24 there is 720p24). One can however set it to 720p, and in a later line the rehresh rate of 720p can be set to multi. Not sure if this is consistent behaviour?

This gives more WEIGHT to a total rebuild/rethink of the AR plugin .. indeed if it were possible I think it would be advantageous if it wasn't just a "plugin" but actually part of the AV Settings Menu but i guess not all users would appreciate that???

Not sure; the embedded AR-functionality is meant for the most commonly used settings. Those who want more just install the plugin.

 

[birdman]

This gives more WEIGHT to a total rebuild/rethink of the AR plugin .. indeed if it were possible I think it would be advantageous if it wasn't just a "plugin" but actually part of the AV Settings Menu but i guess not all users would appreciate that???

A simpler version already is in there.
Personally I find it much simpler just to set the output of the box to be the "best" resolution that my TV can handle and let the box do any scaling. And I would expect that to be the simplest method for everyone except those who have multiple TVs with differing capabilities connected to the same box, so I'm always surprised to see everyone recommending turning on Automatic resolution.
One other advantage, to me, of forcing the box to switch everything to 1080i/p is that this means my TV will always be receiving one resolution. It uses overscan by default, and I have to configure it to turn this of for each individual resolution (and on each individual port, IIRC).

 

[Nitemare]

A simpler version already is in there.
Personally I find it much simpler just to set the output of the box to be the "best" resolution that my TV can handle and let the box do any scaling. And I would expect that to be the simplest method for everyone except those who have multiple TVs with differing capabilities connected to the same box, so I'm always surprised to see everyone recommending turning on Automatic resolution.
One other advantage, to me, of forcing the box to switch everything to 1080i/p is that this means my TV will always be receiving one resolution. It uses overscan by default, and I have to configure it to turn this of for each individual resolution (and on each individual port, IIRC).

Yes my TV's do my switching too ... I'm just pleased that my 4K TV can display 4K signals and then when I change to SD/HD signals on VU+ box the TV re-scales to 1080p automatically ...

@Rob ... yes its obviously more user friendly to have a "basic" AR in AV Settings ... the only issue I have with plugins is that they sometimes get "left behind" as images improve/develop ... obviously more popular plugins are maintained to adapt to image upgrades etc

... the case of AR is case of such a plugin needing work hence this Thread I guess!!

Obviously some plugins are usually a 3rd party creation and I'm sure you image creators have to work/adapt with others to adopt them into your operating image??

 

[birdman]

Just tested that, which leads to the following questions:
1- There is no SD 24fps option. Not sure if it was there before (or that we need it at all)?

Well, I've not changed anything in that area.
The only thing I can think of that used 24fps signals was a DVD, which was always(?) 720p?

2- For 720p50 there is no option 720p50 (although for 720p24 there is 720p24). One can however set it to 720p, and in a later line the rehresh rate of 720p can be set to multi. Not sure if this is consistent behaviour?

No it isn't. Or it wasn't, so I've changed it.

View attachment AR-plugin.zip

(It also meant that "720p" showed up twice in the list...)

https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/pull/159

Not sure; the embedded AR-functionality is meant for the most commonly used settings. Those who want more just install the plugin.

Which is what I find odd, since turning it off completely is by far the simplest thing to do and so should be the most commonly used setting - IMHO.

 

[Rob van der Does]

Thanks Birdman, see

https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/commit/cbbe3e5fd033a9ea132894e311fcfdd7fc272d35

Plugins have all sorts of lay-outs, issues with multiple images and are sometimes 'closed source'. We can often work-around issues, but not always.

 

[Rob van der Does]

Which is what I find odd, since turning it off completely is by far the simplest thing to do and so should be the most commonly used setting - IMHO.

It is
1 = no AR
2 = use embedded AR
3 = use AR plugin

 

[Nitemare]

Thanks Birdman, see

https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/commit/cbbe3e5fd033a9ea132894e311fcfdd7fc272d35

oooh excellent ...!!

Plugins have all sorts of lay-outs, issues with multiple images and are sometimes 'closed source'. We can often work-around issues, but not always.

Understood ...