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Cannot find the settings to have control over subtitles in recordings

Tassie Devil

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Thought I had solved this one but NO, I have not. Rather than add to the previous thread I've commenced another as the previous problem of how to permanently turn subtitles off in recordings has been solved. but the settings required to be able to turn them on or off in a recording escapes me.

The setup procedure for subtitles appears to depend on the following:

MENU -> SETUP -> SYSTEM -> AUTO LANGUAGE SELECTION SETTINGS

From there one can choose to alter these two to affect subtitles-
1. Auto language selection &
2. Subtitle language selection 1

I’ve tried all sorts of combinations, all of which give control on direct view but NONE give control with recordings. With recordings either the subtitles are always there and cannot be controlled or are never there and cannot be invoked.

Here are the combinations tried and the results:

For control of subtitles in direct view but they do not appear or can be invoked on recordings with any of the following combinations:
1. 1. Set at “original”, 2 set at “undetermined”
2. 1. Set at “original”, 2 set at “none”
3. 1. Set at “English”, 2 set at “undetermined”
4. 1. Set at “English”, 2 set at “none”
5. 1. Set at “none”, 2 set at “undetermined”
6. 1. Set at “none”, 2 set at “none” Curiously with this setting subtitles can be displayed on direct view but do not appear on the recording. This could be happening in the above settings – not tested.

For control of subtitles on or off in direct view and they appear on recordings but cannot be turned off in those recordings with any of the following combinations:
1. 1. Set at “English”, 2 set at “English”
2. 1. Set at “none”, 2 set at “English”
3. 1. Set at “original”, 2 set at “English”

Pretty obviously setting Subtitle language selection 1 at "English" gives subtitles with recordings but they cannot be turned off!!

Altering either of
"Preferred audio stream stored by service"
or
"Preferred subtitle stored by service"
appears to make no difference to the results.

Is there some setting somewhere I’m missing?

TIA

John
 
Thought I had solved this one but NO, I have not. Rather than add to the previous thread I've commenced another as the previous problem of how to permanently turn subtitles off in recordings has been solved. but the settings required to be able to turn them on or off in a recording escapes me.

The setup procedure for subtitles appears to depend on the following:

MENU -> SETUP -> SYSTEM -> AUTO LANGUAGE SELECTION SETTINGS

From there one can choose to alter these two to affect subtitles-
1. Auto language selection &
2. Subtitle language selection 1

I’ve tried all sorts of combinations, all of which give control on direct view but NONE give control with recordings. With recordings either the subtitles are always there and cannot be controlled or are never there and cannot be invoked.

Here are the combinations tried and the results:

For control of subtitles in direct view but they do not appear or can be invoked on recordings with any of the following combinations:
1. 1. Set at “original”, 2 set at “undetermined”
2. 1. Set at “original”, 2 set at “none”
3. 1. Set at “English”, 2 set at “undetermined”
4. 1. Set at “English”, 2 set at “none”
5. 1. Set at “none”, 2 set at “undetermined”
6. 1. Set at “none”, 2 set at “none” Curiously with this setting subtitles can be displayed on direct view but do not appear on the recording. This could be happening in the above settings – not tested.

For control of subtitles on or off in direct view and they appear on recordings but cannot be turned off in those recordings with any of the following combinations:
1. 1. Set at “English”, 2 set at “English”
2. 1. Set at “none”, 2 set at “English”
3. 1. Set at “original”, 2 set at “English”

Pretty obviously setting Subtitle language selection 1 at "English" gives subtitles with recordings but they cannot be turned off!!

Altering either of
"Preferred audio stream stored by service"
or
"Preferred subtitle stored by service"
appears to make no difference to the results.

Is there some setting somewhere I’m missing?

TIA

John

Not a reply, just additional info on the installed system:

Black Hole 2.1.7
Build 15/07/07
DVB drivers 20150623
Kernel version 3.13.5
CPU BCM 7346B2 1305 M2 2 cores
 

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