[ViX_Misc] Recordings list

[CRMS]

Bit of a sleep for this thread, so I'll wake it up and I have also mentioned this before. May also be a CrossEPG issue, I'm not sure. The inclusion of radio services with TV services in the same ABM/EPG is brilliant - so belated thanks to the Bletchley Park person who wrote that code.

I agree with Mundosat.

There needs to be a folder mechanism for series recordings. The Sky system of deleting the folder when only one programme is unsatisfactory. An old recording will be lost in the general mish mash of programmes, but in a folder is easy to find. Humax Foxsat keeps the folder until the last programme is deleted.

So, my 2cts.

The first page of the autotimer should include a "Create folder:" option in the list of 5 options currently displayed, with a green tick by default. The Create folder option would also show a folder title, the same name as the "Match title:" option.
Then anything recorded in future with that title is placed in the folder.

Would make life very easy.

 

[ccs]

Tags work for me, recordings get grouped by title when invoked, simple to use and no need for plugins or extra work to produce a feature which people may not want.

 

[CRMS]

>to produce a feature which people may not want.
That is a pretty obtuse argument.
When I bought my Foxsat in 2008, I didn't even know that the file system would automatically create folders for series recorded programmes. When I discovered it, I thought brilliant - all the same series grouped together automatically!! KISS.
Anyway, I'll have a look at tagging.

 

[CRMS]

Had a look at tagging and it is a pretty cackhanded way of doing something really quite simple.

Tags - Playlist - Long Yellow - Scroll to find programme which may well not be on page one - So perhaps select sort sequence - Find programme which may be listed as "An_Unknown_Warrior" or "An Unknown Warrior" - Select programme - To return - Long Yellow - All tags. Doesn't seem to be a simple back from a list of tagged programmes. Eg All tags is number 1, but trying to use 1 just puts 1 on the screen??

Folders - Playlist - Scroll to folder which as with Humax are always listed first - Select and pick programme. Left arrow on numeric keypad (No4) acts as a back button to get back to full programme list.

 

[Andy_Hazza]

Had a look at tagging and it is a pretty cackhanded way of doing something really quite simple.

Tags - Playlist - Long Yellow - Scroll to find programme which may well not be on page one - So perhaps select sort sequence - Find programme which may be listed as "An_Unknown_Warrior" or "An Unknown Warrior" - Select programme - To return - Long Yellow - All tags. Doesn't seem to be a simple back from a list of tagged programmes. Eg All tags is number 1, but trying to use 1 just puts 1 on the screen??

Folders - Playlist - Scroll to folder which as with Humax are always listed first - Select and pick programme. Left arrow on numeric keypad (No4) acts as a back button to get back to full programme list.

Learn to code and do a plugin that will sort your recordings how you want them to be sorted. [emoji3]


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[ccs]

Had a look at tagging and it is a pretty cackhanded way of doing something really quite simple.

Tags - Playlist - Long Yellow - Scroll to find programme which may well not be on page one.

If autotimer creates folders then you'll have the same problem.

Had a look at tagging and it is a pretty cackhanded way of doing something really quite simple.

Doesn't seem to be a simple back from a list of tagged programmes. Eg All tags is number 1, but trying to use 1 just puts 1 on the screen??

(a) 1 gets you out of the tags list
(b) tags (long yellow or radio) gets you out of the programme tag you've gone into.

Oddly, if you press exit after using option (b), you go back into the tag you've just exited from.

 

[Willo3092]

I had a hack at Grog's Movie Organisor and took out the bit that moves single recordings back to the file list and deletes the folder.
Seems to work alright for me although I'm no coder.
You're welcome to try it if you want.

View attachment enigma2-plugin-extensions-movieorganisor_2.16_all.ipk

 

[CRMS]

>Learn to code...

As I draw my state pension on Saturday, think the coding bus has well and truly left. I do recall Fortran punch cards, flicking bit switches and Ferranti FM1600s.
Still, I guess it proves the adage - If you want something done, then do it yourself!!

 

[simonc]

Have to say that I agree that the tagging is a bit user unfriendly. I accidentally activated it a while ago and thought I'd lost half my recordings. It feels like a slightly unfinished feature: the ugly inconsistency of underscore vs whitespace, the way that autotimer has a Tags setting, but for me at least, only lets me set it to None. Worst thing is that if you just chuck everything into a single folder, it takes much longer to open the movielist, which causes user frustration in our house and much animated waving around of the remote (why's it so slow?, the old box was much better! That kind of thing).

We used to have a feature called autofile on the Topfield, which was perfect. If you chose to activate it on a timer (or autotimer) it'd put the recording into a same named folder. It didn't bother deleting the folder when it was empty, it'd just hide them when they were empty.

Another approach, seen on my Panasonic blu-ray/HDD recorder, recordings are grouped by name - not sure if they're actually folders under the hood here - if there's more than one of something, you get a kind of stack icon next to the name, when you press OK on it, it expands to what's effectively a folder.

 

[ccs]

Changing the autotimer default Include autotimer name in tags to yes sorts out the underscores, at least I don't see them anymore.

There used to be an issue where manual timers and autotimers for the same programme would generate different tags, not sure if this still happens.

 

[abu baniaz]

Although not directly relevant, I use the "event name" file name composition fo rth recordings. Makes it easier to bulk move/delete files.

Secondly, there was a script uploaded on this forum a few years ago. It did the foldering up automtaically although it didn't cater for the different naming conventions that are possible.
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?47276-AutoOrganise-Recorded-Items-Folder-Solution

 

[CRMS]

OK. Now at 5.4.003.

Had a go installing Movieorganisor 2.14 and got a screen:

Collected errors:
opkg_solver_install: Cannot install package. etc etc.

2.16 installed fine and rounded up all the programmes into folders which is great. But I assume that it will only do that when there are 2 programmes the same??

 

[mitchelln]

I've just got my Vu+ Duo 4K SE. Amazed it does not organise series into folders out of the box, but hey. I've tried Movie Organiser, but also interested in EMC. However, I seen posts elsewhere that say it causes issues with the 4K SE?

 

[ccs]

I've just got my Vu+ Duo 4K SE. Amazed it does not organise series into folders out of the box, but hey. I've tried Movie Organiser, but also interested in EMC. However, I seen posts elsewhere that say it causes issues with the 4K SE?

It does, movielist/menu/settings/enable automatic collections

 

[mitchelln]

It does, movielist/menu/settings/enable automatic collections

Aha! That's great. Thank you.

 

[Limborock2]

Grogs movie organisor will sort recordings into folders. It will only put them into folders if there's more than 1 program with the same name

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1492j21gok9tncp/enigma2-plugin-extensions-movieorganisor_2.14_all.ipk?dl=1

Once installed go into the plugin then blue to update

Pardon the elementary question - but I downloaded the ipk file. Now which folder do I upload the .ipk file to, to execute the "Install local extension" function? (At least I assume that's the correct function to use)?

 

[Willo3092]

Pardon the elementary question - but I downloaded the ipk file. Now which folder do I upload the .ipk file to, to execute the "Install local extension" function? (At least I assume that's the correct function to use?

copy to /tmp

 

[CRMS]

Happy New Year.

I've started to use the automatic collections feature which does what it says on the tin. But the sort options doesn't have a "collections first" option. It would be great addition so that collections can be displayed first, or last, then with say other media alphabetically/newest first etc.
Movieorganisor folders are displayed first.